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A few months ago on this site, I was having an argument with a new poster who self-identified himself/herself as a liberal. The argument involved whether Vietnam would have been better off if the South Vietnamese had beaten the NVA. As the argument was getting going, I challenged the poster to name one country in the world where it had ever happened that the Communists had taken over and then voluntarily relinquished power. I pointed out that this scenario had happened with a number of U.S. back authoritarian regimes, such as in Taiwan, South Korea, Chile, the Phillipines, etc. The Communist regime, however, had ever come close to voluntarily relinquishing power in the way that pro-Western regimes had. The liberal's response was that of course the communists had done. He/She then proceeded to cite as examples East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, etc., after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Once I read that response, I stopped responding because I figured it was pointless to continue the argument.