[Nebullis]

All of science was founded on the premises that the universe is intelligently designed and that, with diligent effort, we mere humans can discern at least some of that design.

The understanding that the scientific method can be used to discern the design of the universe is a good start, Phaedrus. Don't confuse this with using science to discern knowledge of God. For that the methodology of science is beside the point. And you are back to religion or philosophy, not science.

[f.Christian]

What is left after you take God out of science...society---science?

To: Marathon

Missionaries have said for years that American educational/media institutions are far more closed than in places like Russia. This underscores their point. What was it someone said, to find real communists these days you have to visit an American university?

2 Posted on 03/27/2000 10:56:24 PST by Marathon

...to find real communists these days you have to visit an American university?

visit an American class/NEWS-room...internet news site(FR)!

[Phaedrus]

Don't confuse this with using science to discern knowledge of God.

My position would be that the pursuit of science is a subset of our larger quest for knowledge in general and knowledge of God in particular.

[cornelis]

And you are back to religion or philosophy, not science.

This view is relatively modern. It occurs as a popular view after the Rennaissance