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To: Right Wing Professor
it's language is plain

Easy there Professor. There is more to the story than meets the eye and I have posted it here once before. If you honestly believe that the Pope believes in evolution as you and your evo buddies do, you are sadly mistaken.

Check this out: What the Pope said

Furthermore, watching you and your evo gang of wolves constantly attack people for challenging your theory is getting tiresome -- not because you do it, but because of the way in which you do it. I am sure you would love it if people would just allow the evo theory to go unapposed and unscrutinized, so you and your little gang could claim to understand the gift of life and preach evolution as the gospel in our schools (you do already, but that's another issue). And you aren't even the worst offender (pun intended). There are other evo thugs who frequent these threads whose entire mission statement is to attack those with opposing views. The mistake they make is to think nobody notices.

Here's the bottom line: we (those who think evolution is a crock) aren't going away any time soon. Furthermore, there are more generations of us on the way (add my kids to the list). In time, the truth will be obvious to all.

Regards, MM

1,519 posted on 11/22/2002 11:08:35 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Even theology/religion admits the mother of all science is...

philosophy(bias/sin vs Truth)---

it is inescapable!


Evolution/ideology skips all three...

glorified bias/evil---LIES!


1,522 posted on 11/22/2002 11:55:52 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
If you honestly believe that the Pope believes in evolution as you and your evo buddies do, you are sadly mistaken.

I'm amused you advance yourself as an authority on what I and 'my evo buddies' believe. How long have you realized you had these powers?

Check this out: What the Pope said

A typical piece of dishonest creationist prevarication. Perhaps you should look at this

http://www.ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP961022.HTM

...and particularly the note at then end. This blows your entire 'mistranslation' theory out of the water.

EWTN Note on translation:

The English edition at first translated the French original as: "Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of more than one hypothesis within the theory of evolution." The L'Osservatore Romano English Edition subsequently amended the text to that given in the body of the message above, citing the translation of the other language editions as its reason. It should be noted that an hypothesis is the preliminary stage of the scientific method and the Pope's statement suggests nothing more than that science has progressed beyond that stage. This is certainly true with respect to cosmological evolution (the physical universe), whose science both Pius XII and John Paul II  have praised, but not true in biology, about which the popes have generally issued cautions

I reproduce, again, the official translation as per l'Osservatore Romano English edition.

Today, more than a half-century after the appearance of that encyclical, some new findings lead us toward the recognition of evolution as more than an hypothesis.  In fact it is remarkable that this theory has had progressively greater influence on the spirit of researchers, following a series of discoveries in different scholarly disciplines. The convergence in the results of these independent studies—which was neither planned nor sought—constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory.

Note that, in addition, Michelangelo's source does not question the rest of the paragraph, after the first sentence, which continues the argument that evolution is not just a hypothsis, but a theory supported by a "convergence in the results of .... independent studies... (which) constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of the theory."

Have a good day, Michelangelo, and nice try portraying yourself as a concerned neutral observer. Alas, it appears you're just another tendentious creationist who thinks he can get by with an out-of-context quote because no one will check what he posts. Unfortunately for you, experience has taught me that if a creationist claims the sun rose this morning, it's advisable to take a quick glance out the window.

1,523 posted on 11/22/2002 12:10:42 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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