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To: Nebullis
The ID movement is irrelevant.

For something that is irrelevant, one must wonder why the evolutionists attack it so much! Nothing better to do? One would think that the evos would be hard at work discovering new things, digging for bones, looking in their microscopes, playing with their crayons....

1,003 posted on 11/13/2002 7:02:33 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
For something that is irrelevant, one must wonder why the evolutionists attack it so much!

ID is scientifically irrelevant. Politically, of course, it isn't. Politically, it's a useful Trojan horse for trying to impose the beliefs of a peculiar sect of Protestant biblical literalists onto science. Biologists, in fact, have been beguiled by the self-evident speciousness of ID into ignoring it, as they ignore most crackpot theories, and this is how it's managed to gain a foothold in places like Ohio. I just got back from OSU, where they still don't understand what happened to them.

That's why I give so little respect to creationists. This is not an intellectual debate - if it were an intellectual debate, it would be over - it's a battle for raw political power. Creationists want to impose their peculiar worldview first on conservatism, then on American K-12 education, and finally on science itself. It's fundamentalist radicalism: the very antithesis of conservativism.

Gore3000, when he claims that atheists can't be physicians; f.Christian, with his ravings; these are truly the American Taliban. It's easy to mock their arguments for ID, but one shouldn't discount their seriousness, or the lengths to which they will go to.

1,009 posted on 11/13/2002 7:33:31 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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