[TechJunkYard]

You need to stop drinking so much.. it clouds your judgement. Read the sentence before the one you posted:

And windows admins in my experience don't usually have the first clue about the hardware, much less the software.

This asserts that he knows Windows admins that don't know the business end of a network cable. I know some of these too. You are way off the mark here. NONE of us has said that MCSEs should be software engineers.

[rdb3]

NONE of us has said that MCSEs should be software engineers.

I know I didn't!

No mercy.
Coming soon: Tha SYNDICATE.

[Bush2000]

This asserts that he knows Windows admins that don't know the business end of a network cable. I know some of these too. You are way off the mark here.

BS. He's made it pretty clear that it's his expectation that they should know why and how the hardware/software functions. Which is beyond the scope of their jobs.

NONE of us has said that MCSEs should be software engineers.

I'm glad you think so. But your buddy Havoc apparently thinks that's the way things should be.