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To: waterstraat
The Police chief said he was going after illegal guns, not legal guns.

Not exactly, he said "What we can do — and what the focus of our initiative is — is to make sure no one is carrying a weapon illegally".

Since it's already illegal for criminals to carry guns, or even to have them, the only additional measures are to go after non-criminals carrying guns. Now that's probably illegal too, carrying guns without permission from the state,that is, but Florida's Constitution provides: "(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law." Thus any changes must be in the "manner of bearing arms". A ban, without state permission, is not regulation, it's a ban. The similar provision of the US Constitution provides: "..the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". I guess this guy doesn't understand the meaning of "not" or "infringed".

18 posted on 11/06/2002 5:39:24 PM PST by El Gato
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To: El Gato
The Police chief said he was going after illegal guns, not legal guns. Not exactly, he said "What we can do — and what the focus of our initiative is — is to make sure no one is carrying a weapon illegally". Since it's already illegal for criminals to carry guns, or even to have them, the only additional measures are to go after non-criminals carrying guns. Now that's probably illegal too, carrying guns without permission from the state,that is, but Florida's Constitution provides: "(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law." Thus any changes must be in the "manner of bearing arms". A ban, without state permission, is not regulation, it's a ban. The similar provision of the US Constitution provides: "..the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". I guess this guy doesn't understand the meaning of "not" or "infringed".

That is NOT!!! what the police cheif said.

I have a Florida ccw, and the police chief is NOT after me, since I carry legally in Florida.

The police chief said he is going after criminals carrying guns, not we honest citizens with ccw's.

19 posted on 11/06/2002 6:00:55 PM PST by waterstraat
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To: El Gato
I am sure you noted the fatal word "and" in the Florida state constitution you quoted. You can carry in defense of self AND proper authority, but not for just yourself, or just for the state.



That would disarm most folks. I tell ya, ya gotta amend that darn thing, it should be "or", don't you agree?

It would also allow laws to disarm police officers while in their police stations, and while off duty and not under threat.
27 posted on 11/06/2002 8:58:10 PM PST by donmeaker
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