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To: Zon
Violation of almost every law has occurred several times. Some of those violations have been successfully prosecuted and some have failed in prosecution. Only the disingenuous person or dishonest person or irrational person would suggest that a law could guarantee absolute compliance to the law

But it seems your solution to this problem is to simply let the bureaucrats do whatever they want. You have already insisted that the HHS is an "honest" agency despite its history of misuse of power, and therefore you foolishly oppose having the necessary safeguards in place to even make the attempt to stop them from implementing socialism. When the laws already in place are shown to be inadequate to solve the problem, since they are written in such a manner to allow the very manipulation that you claim doesn't exist, you then claim that a lack of prosecution of these people who have effectively admitted their guilt is meaningless, because no law has a "100% rate of successful prosecution".

You can't have it both ways. Either the laws are adequate or they are not. The fact that past administrations have manipulated the poverty level values shows that the laws are not effective, or that they simply don't apply. By insisting that the failure of those laws is due to unsuccessful prosecution rather than a flaw in the law itself, you only show that the overall system is incapable of preventing the abuse, and cannot act as an adequate safeguard to manipulation of those numbers. Either way, it shows that the system is subject to manipulation, and therefore can be used as an instrument to establish socialism.
990 posted on 11/11/2002 10:40:37 PM PST by Technogeeb
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To: Technogeeb

When the laws already in place are shown to be inadequate to solve the problem,

You rely on a quote from a government bureaucrat that was printed in The New York Times. Neither of which are anywhere near being paragons of honesty that you wish they were -- no doubt that you're in their league.

Yada yada yada... Spin your wheels some more.

994 posted on 11/12/2002 12:17:14 AM PST by Zon
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