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So you would not be opposed to passing a law making it legal for someone to do that, because it is unlikely they would actually do it?

There is already a law prohibiting any person form going postal. Similar could be done for the HHS to ensure honest calculation of the poverty level. No law can guarantee any random person out of a quarter billion people won't go postal. A law prohibiting the commissioner at the HHS from putting out a dishonest poverty level $number is far far easier to "guarantee" that he abides by the law than a random person from a quarter billion people going postal. But you'd never think rationally that far ahead. But you do think irrationally far ahead to proclaim your tin-foil-hat assertion that: "They [HHS] can simply say the poverty level is $150,000." Despite it being a completely obvious fraud if HHS did that, and there would be a law prohibiting the HHS commissioner from putting out a dishonest poverty level $number in the first place. Your words show that dishonesty knows no bounds and the need for such a law.

You still refuse

I didn't refuse I simply ignore your false assertion.

Zon: You demonstrated your intent to deceive the reader. Thus rendering yourself not to be trusted or respected because you disrespect the reader. You probably think you can mislead and try to deceive the reader and that they should just comply with you and answer your questions or take you seriously. You deserve no person's attention in a discussion. Scorn. That's what you deserve. 936

Technogeeb: Your lies and personal attacks do nothing to refute the clear flaws in the system you are advocating. Government handouts to every household in the United States (the "prebate" mechanism) is socialism. To claim that it is otherwise is a lie. And since that system allows an unelected bureaucrat to determine the value of those handouts (with no additional action by Congress once the system is enacted), the only thing preventing it from becoming pure communism is the goodwill of the bureaucrats. 939

Your comments are on record; I'm glad to let the reader juxtaposition our comments.

There is already a law prohibiting any person form going postal. Similar could be done for the HHS to ensure honest calculation of the poverty level

But such a law does not exist. Enact it first (or as part of the proposal), and the worst flaws in the system would be eliminated. The "prebate" would still be a government handout and still be socialism, but at least it wouldn't have the previously discussed fatal flaw. But as the proposal exists right now, it DOES have that flaw.

But you do think irrationally far ahead to proclaim your tin-foil-hat assertion that: "They [HHS] can simply say the poverty level is $150,000.

Without the modification to the law that you just proposed (but neither exists in reality nor in the currently proposed legislation), they CAN simply do that. To suggest that pointing out that fatal flaw, which quite clearly DOES exist, is "tin-foil" is dishonest on your part, a dishonesty that you continue to pursue to hide your initial refusal to admit the existence of the flaw.

Despite it being a completely obvious fraud if HHS did that, and there would be a law prohibiting the HHS commissioner from putting out a dishonest poverty level $number in the first place

There is no proposal for such a law prohibiting fraudulent poverty levels, since "poverty" is an arbitrary concept. To suggest that there "would be" a law is meaningless. Pass that law first, or as part of the legislation, since without it my objections to the system are self-evidently correct.

Your words show that dishonesty knows no bounds and the need for such a law

Such a law quite clearly would be needed. The fact that you now admit as such, even though you continue to characterize the pointing out of that the flaw as "tin-foil" or a "false assertion", shows that you recognize that the flaw does exist. But to suggest that the reason why such a law needs to exist is somehow related to my "dishonesty" (simply because I point out that without such a mechanism there is no limit on the "prebate" government handout amount) is irrational.