[Technogeeb]

You erroneously claim it is arbitrary. It's not arbitrary. (arbitrary: Based on or subject to individual discretion or preference or sometimes impulse or caprice)

By that definition, it is indeed arbitrary. The determination of the poverty level is whatever the secretary of the HHS determines it is. "Poverty" is an arbitrary value, not some fixed economic constant.

As I wrote in post 904:

"According to your "logic" they can do whatever they want [arbitrary].  Thus they can do whatever they want with your preferred plan too. For with any plan you propose they can simply say the _______ (fill in the blank) level is __________ (fill in the blank). For example, they can simply say a 99% income tax will be withheld from all paychecks where the person's annual  income level is $10,000 or more." 904

But such a change as that would NOT be arbitrary. Unlike the "poverty level", which can be changed by administrative fiat, the rate of taxation under the current system must be changed by an act of Congress, whose members are elected by the people. Your attempt to equate the folly of the two systems is nonsensical.

You demonstrated your intent to deceive the reader. Thus rendering yourself not to be trusted or respected because you disrespect the reader. You probably think you can mislead and try to deceive the reader and that they should just comply with you and answer your questions or take you seriously. You deserve no person's attention in a discussion. Scorn. That's what you deserve

Your lies and personal attacks do nothing to refute the clear flaws in the system you are advocating. Government handouts to every household in the United States (the "prebate" mechanism) is socialism. To claim that it is otherwise is a lie. And since that system allows an unelected bureaucrat to determine the value of those handouts (with no additional action by Congress once the system is enacted), the only thing preventing it from becoming pure communism is the goodwill of the bureaucrats.

[Zon]

 Your attempt to equate the folly of the two systems is nonsensical.

It seems that you think members of congress are so honest that they wouldn't create a Bill and pass it to implement a graduated income tax; and that it would only ever put a tax burden on the highest incomes of a merger 1% income tax; and that congress is so honest that it wouldn't raise that rate to 40% for the highest incomes and roughly 33% for middle incomes and roughly 25% for lower incomes; and that members congress are so honest that they won't continue raising the income tax rates beyond those amounts. Or that members of congress are so honest that they wouldn't create 20,000 gun laws, most of which violate the U.S. constitution. The list of how frequently members of congress violate their oath of office is very long indeed. The HHS has a long track record of using honest calculations to determine the poverty level, certainly far more honest than how members of congress trash the U.S. constitution to the harm of all citizens. However, members of congress could start to correct their frauds by passing HR2525.

But I have digressed to catering to you. Not to worry, I'll get over it.

You demonstrated your intent to deceive the reader. Thus rendering yourself not to be trusted or respected because you disrespect the reader. You probably think you can mislead and try to deceive the reader and that they should just comply with you and answer your questions or take you seriously. You deserve no person's attention in a discussion. Scorn. That's what you deserve.