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To: Deuce

Upper income class pays more tax in proportion to income than any other class.

As a group, they also pay a smaller portion of their wealth

Wealth is income earned and retained after taxes. They have paid far more in proportion to their income in aquiring that wealth than any other class. Your hyperbole merely points once again to the personal problem you have concerning what the rich do with their after tax income.

Even page three of this JCT Study you refer others to, and you base you distribution calculations on says otherwise:

and less than the benefits they receive.

benefits from government? benefits in proportion to tax they pay? Definitely not. Again from your own sources, those who receive the greater share of government largess in proportion to their incomes, the poor, pay the least in taxes:

This leaves the great in between middle class which receive:

Your own sources you rely on, disprove your statements and show your socialist agenda and ingenuousness for what it is.

902 posted on 11/11/2002 1:10:52 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: ancient_geezer
Your own sources you rely on, disprove your statements and show your socialist agenda and ingenuousness for what it is.

You’re starting to use Technogeeb’s hyperbole. If you re-read my post I clearly state that I agree with you that the higher income groups pay more than disproportionately to their income. That is the only issue addressed by my “own sources.” I then go on to say, that the higher income groups also pay a smaller rate on their wealth. You respond:

Wealth is income earned and retained after taxes. They have paid far more in proportion to their income in aquiring that wealth than any other class.

While this is true, in no way does it negate what I said. You continue:

Your hyperbole merely points once again to the personal problem you have concerning what the rich do with their after tax income.

You identify the comment that the higher income groups pay a higher portion of their income and a lower portion of their wealth as hyperbole? How? It is a statement of fact that doesn’t even include a judgment let alone a hyperbolic comment or judgment. I then go on to say that the wealthiest people receive the greatest benefit from government. This is an opinion not a statement of fact as you seem to think when you respond:

Definitely not. Again from your own sources, those who receive the greater share of government largess in proportion to their incomes, the poor, pay the least in taxes

My “sources” do not address the issue of who benefits from government. However, the most basic (and I would add, valuable) aspect of government services is the defense of life and property from both internal and external threat. Therefore, the more property one has to protect, the more he benefits. In a sentence, that is a primary basis for believing the wealthier classes do not pay for the value received.

903 posted on 11/11/2002 6:23:11 AM PST by Deuce
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