Why don't you check his numbers and ask Joprgenson for youself. I didn't use his numbers to make a point. I don't have to, I have written and implimented too many payrolls for small and large businesses. (Detailed in another post to you). Nor do I care to spend hours analysing out the errors of assumptions and omissions in the technical report of some economist.
Certainly you can tell me the exact process that causes 20%-30% to be added to the cost of each of tens or hundreds of thousands of items run off a production line. If it's too complex to explain in a few short paragraphs and requires several interrelated charts and graphs and lots of words, more than likely it's labored and produced to advance a previously held assumption. In which case I'm not interested.
Your charts and graphs mean nothing to me. If they are meaningful, provide the clear and concise explanation of how they relate to the topic at hand.
I didn't use his numbers to make a point. I don't have to,
Right.
I have written and implimented too many payrolls for small and large businesses. (Detailed in another post to you).
One may claim anything as an faceless individual on the net. Which is why I chose to relie on the studies of those who are well known and have a verifiable reputation in the field. Your self serving anectdotals are valueless.
Where Have All the Dollars Gone?
How the government robs Peter to pay him back.
By James L. Payne, Reason Magazine February '94
When the overhead costs are added together, (24 percent compliance costs, 33 percent disincentive costs, and 8 percent other costs), they total 65 percent of tax revenue.
Current total Federal tax revenues are about $1900billion, more than $1,000 billion additional dollars are added on onto consumption prices due to the business costs of complying with the federal income/payroll tax laws.
(Payne '97, Pilla '95, AGCCA 2000, Williams 2000)
Your charts and graphs mean nothing to me.
Obviously, but then the charts and graphs aren't really meant for you. They are meant for those who read these threads and take the time to investigate beyond the rhetoric of the demogogue.
If they are meaningful, provide the clear and concise explanation of how they relate to the topic at hand.
You are incapable of inference and understanding charts and studies yourself? But why do I bother to ask that? for the answer is obvious from your display of ignorance and lack of scholarship through out this thread.
Certainly you can tell me the exact process that causes 20%-30% to be added to the cost of each of tens or hundreds of thousands of items... Prices of tens of hundreds of thousands of items all contain a portion dedicated to paying the costs of the income tax, which come to 20-30% depending on industry/product. See numerous links on thread if you like.
Just like any other cost, tax costs must be paid for. Hence monies must be collected to pay those costs. The monies are collected by making prices higher, among other things.
If you want links to studies backing this assertion, look on the thread. But as you've said you refused to look at them and wanted something strightforward- there you go.
Remember that you should look at the facts before making more ignorant statements.