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Simon's Defeat: Blame Riordan, blame Simon (Analysis of the results)
California Secretary of State ^ | 6 November 2002 | RightOnTheLeftCoast

Posted on 11/06/2002 11:13:00 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast

It's certainly distressing that the Golden State was unable to scrape Gray Davis off its shoe last night. Challenger Bill Simon did well everywhere except the big cities and limousine-liberal counties:

For much of the night he was ahead of Davis. That was fun, but I kept reminding folks that the big metro areas hadn't spoken. Then L.A. County's numbers came in, well after the agricultural areas and suburbs had shot their wad (agriculture is California's largest industry, but it doesn't count for squat electorally), and that gave Davis all his margin:

 Los Angeles County Returns County Returns | Statewide | Other Contests 
    Candidate                Party       Votes   Percent
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  Los Angeles County
  * Gray Davis                 Dem     588,811   55.9 
    Bill Simon                 Rep     371,477   35.3 
    Reinhold S. Gulke          AmI      15,736    1.4 
    Peter Miguel Camejo        Grn      41,967    4.0 
    Gary David Copeland        Lib      24,222    2.3 
    Iris Adam                  Nat      11,631    1.1 
  Statewide
  * Gray Davis                 Dem   2,409,948   47.4 
    Bill Simon                 Rep   2,154,786   42.4 
    Reinhold S. Gulke          AmI      88,206    1.7 
    Peter Miguel Camejo        Grn     263,907    5.2 
    Gary David Copeland        Lib     108,452    2.2 
    Iris Adam                  Nat      59,698    1.1 


Isn't that amazing? One county gave Davis his entire freaking margin! One county!

Analysis:

You gotta understand, Simon won his primary in a stunning upset. To many, that was unforgiveable. The originally-anointed candidate, Richard Riordan, was former mayor of L.A. and a committed leftist: Barbara Lee applauder, taxer-and-spender, house-to-house gun confiscator... in other words, what some folks call a RINO, meaning "Republican in name only". Other folks prefer the term "electable", though that's far from certain considering his primary-race flameout. Anyway, after Simon crushed him, holding him to only his home county in the primary and burying him under an 18% margin statewide, Riordan spent practically the entire general election campaign licking his wounds and taking occasional snippy potshots at Simon, muttering about mounting a write-in campaign and other immature sour-grapes stuff like that. So it's no surprise that Riordan's county-of-prominence is what won the election for Davis all by itself. Really, the numbers are damning, and put to lie all the cr@p pundits are spouting about what a bad candidate Simon was and the futility of running a conservative in California. Sure, Simon was inexperienced-- never so much ran for student council before, as far as I know, and his campaign had many malaprops and stupidities and several doses of bad luck and worse judgment. But he won more of the state than Dan Lungren did four years ago. And let's not forget, his primary was brilliant. His biggest mistake was that he didn't see the need (as Reagan saw intuitively, being an experienced union president) to make peace and otherwise neutralize the GOP's notoriously fractious factions and appease icons like Riordan immediately after the primary. (Let's put it this way: Reagan coined the 11th Commandment for good reason.) And the Party powers-that-be here let Riordan get away with his bad behavior (and furthermore meddled with Simon's superb street-fighter primary team). We had four or five visits by Bush, about ten from Giuliani (big friend of Simon's), and even McCain last week, and a fair amount of national GOP money, which in hindsight should all have been poured into L.A. ...including to buy a muzzle and straitjacket for Riordan or send him away on a long vacation.

Simon can congratulate himself for a valiant first effort and for sticking to his principles more than most first-time candidates who land in the big-time do. I hope he's not done with politics. He's a good man in every sense of the word, and California is poorer for his loss. Much poorer: Gray Davis' deficit for this year alone amounts to nearly $700 per man, woman and child here; he's driven state spending up 34.6% in his first term, and he's done nothing to solve the lack of energy supply or address looming water and transportation crises (except declare that California has built its last freeway, which is hardly any solution).

California needs your prayers. Yesterday was a very bad day for the state.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: billsimon; calgov2002; dickriordan; graydavis
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And what is wrong with the Libertarians? Their guy, Copeland, was a gibbering fruitcake, one who describes himself in his campaign literature as a "practicing Druid", posed in Druid robes for interviews, and ended up being disowned by his Party after spitting on a radio host and stomping out of a radio appearance. And he drew 2.1%?! Despite a fair Jeffersonian running on the Republican side? Amazing.
1 posted on 11/06/2002 11:13:00 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Gophack; ElkGroveDan; Ernest_at_the_Beach; DougLorenz; Doug Fiedor; forest
Sad ping.
2 posted on 11/06/2002 11:13:51 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: *calgov2002
Sad ping.
3 posted on 11/06/2002 11:14:29 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
My gem from another thread.

Except at the local level in less urban areas, the republican party is dead in California. Weak or non-existent leadership. Also the demographics, immigration and increasing democratic power portend more of the same. A corrupt disasterous democrat was just reelected to the top spot and swept others in with him. The ex-mayor of LA might have won, but he'd be a democrat in any other state.

It will take a miracle or ressurection to beat the democrats in the next Cal election.

4 posted on 11/06/2002 11:18:12 AM PST by breakem
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
In previous CA elections:

1996 Dole 3,828,380
1998 Lundgren 3,218,030
2000 Campbell 3,886,853
2000 Bush 4,567,429

this year:

Davis 3,141,000
Simon 2,812,000

Now, come on. This means that roughly 1mm Republicans stayed home. This race was very, very winnable.
5 posted on 11/06/2002 11:19:01 AM PST by eaglescout
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
In hindsight - maybe Sec of State Bill Jones would have been a better candidate.

BTW, This just goes to show how goofy the LP voters really are.

6 posted on 11/06/2002 11:21:53 AM PST by afuturegovernor
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To: afuturegovernor
"In hindsight - maybe Sec of State Bill Jones would have been a better candidate."

Ah bin sayin' that all along.

7 posted on 11/06/2002 11:27:35 AM PST by Thud
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To: afuturegovernor; Thud
maybe Sec of State Bill Jones would have been a better candidate

Obviously the party didn't think so in the primaries. Jones' tax-hiking record and his backhanding of GWB in 2000 would have been significant hindrances. Besides, Simon won all of Jones' strongholds yesterday. Take a look at those numbers from the Secretary of State again... Davis won only because of L.A. County. The problem isn't Jones, and it really wasn't Simon: it's Riordan, more than anyone else.
8 posted on 11/06/2002 11:31:47 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Simon was a total disaster as a campaigner. His being chosen as the worst major party nominee in the whole election, by the GOP congressional campaign committee given the New York Democratic gubernatorial nominee, says it all.
9 posted on 11/06/2002 11:31:52 AM PST by Thud
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
it's not amazing ... that's the Libertarian party and this is California.

In retrospect and the ultimate conclusion I was left with is that our sacrifice here in CA has been to now live with 4 more years of Gray Davis, as truly a valid sacrifice in accepting direction of valuable GOP resources to a truly incredible and absolutely historic Republican Sweep, near coast to coast, that not only removed the liberal's Senate obstruction of likewise important things like homeland security and judges, tax relief, etc..

In addition, the extra effort spent to ensure Jeb's near landslide was something that will resonate outside our borders, even more than winning CA, with folks like the wimpy annoying French who may not understand the US but understand the statement made through FLA, and, I presume, many may have woken up this morning, choked, and quickly called their UN Ambassador and told them they might want to think about changing their game plan.

Bottom line Bush & US look very strong and that is a far more valuable and safer thing for our state and the country at large than all the liberal kooky garbage that we'll have to suffer with for 4 more years, and it's likely the GOP will be reviewing that map in detail and realize that, turnout aside, it is possible for Bush to take CA in 2004 when a Senate post will be at stake, in addition.

*** as a further aside, as you mention, Gray Davis had planned on running for President in two years and set aside many of the state's problems, such as electricity, to come up again in two years, expecting he'd be off to DC by that point. Now he's left to wallow here forevermore as an also near totally disgraced candidate that the DemoncRATs were more than willing last night to sweep out on the street with the rest of their liberal icons ala KKT, Shannon O'Brien, Shaheen et. al. who were stomped on like an old used carpet.

10 posted on 11/06/2002 11:31:57 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: afuturegovernor
---------- "BTW, This just goes to show how goofy the LP voters really are."

"1996 Dole 3,828,380
1998 Lundgren 3,218,030
2000 Campbell 3,886,853
2000 Bush 4,567,429

this year:


Davis 3,141,000

Simon 2,812,000"

Looks to me the Republicans didn't bother to vote.

11 posted on 11/06/2002 11:35:37 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn
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To: eaglescout
This means that roughly 1mm Republicans stayed home. This race was very, very winnable.

That's what hurts the most. Bill Jones went all over the state telling people to just go and vote. He said that if all the Republicans would vote, Simon would win. He was right but the Republicans in this state are so INFURIATING! We just roll over and let ourselves be abused. Grrrrrrrrrr! Just think of all the democrapic Californians who went to the polls yesterday and voted for Satan himself and his many minions while the so-called Republicans stayed home and didn't even bother. It's enough to make you cry. Ack!

12 posted on 11/06/2002 11:36:57 AM PST by Saundra Duffy
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To: eaglescout
Simon only had to take on the ILLEGAL issue. If so he would have been the winner, End of story & end of the republican party in California.
13 posted on 11/06/2002 11:38:20 AM PST by Digger
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I must've posted from a cached copy of the Secretary of State's figures. Here are the 100%-reporting ones...

Los Angeles County Returns County Returns| | Other Contests 
    Candidate                Party       Votes   Percent
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  Los Angeles County
  * Gray Davis                 Dem     874,382   55.9 
    Bill Simon                 Rep     545,808   34.9 
    Reinhold S. Gulke          AmI      23,121    1.4 
    Peter Miguel Camejo        Grn      66,805    4.3 
    Gary David Copeland        Lib      36,833    2.4 
    Iris Adam                  Nat      17,394    1.1 
  Statewide
  * Gray Davis                 Dem   3,142,620   47.4 
    Bill Simon                 Rep   2,813,200   42.4 
    Reinhold S. Gulke          AmI     114,013    1.7 
    Peter Miguel Camejo        Grn     345,777    5.3 
    Gary David Copeland        Lib     144,590    2.1 
    Iris Adam                  Nat      77,892    1.1 


Sorry... was up 'til 2... but still: Statewide: Davis wins by 329,420
LA County: Davis wins by 328,574

Same conclusion. L.A. won it for Davis.
14 posted on 11/06/2002 11:41:51 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Thud
Did you vote?
15 posted on 11/06/2002 11:43:30 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: afuturegovernor
BTW, This just goes to show how goofy the LP voters really are.

No, it doesn't. A lot of registered Libertarians, including myself, didn't vote for the Druid nutball. I'm willing to bet that much of his support came from people who just couldn't see voting for Simon the stiff.
16 posted on 11/06/2002 11:53:17 AM PST by Hemlock
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
As a former Angeleno, I can really sympathize. GreyOut Doofus is HORRIBLE, and let's only hope that the next few years will show Californians that there future doesn't lie in failed socialist programs.

I think if you got a good candidate (Arnold?) and energized the base, you'd make it Reagan Country all over again. Good Luck! (And keep Doofus away from those tofu and berry shakes he drinks for breakfast - every day - the guy is seriously loony.)

17 posted on 11/06/2002 12:00:03 PM PST by The Right Stuff
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I voted for Simon.
18 posted on 11/06/2002 12:00:14 PM PST by Thud
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To: Thud
Good. Thanks.
19 posted on 11/06/2002 12:11:53 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Looks to me the Republicans didn't bother to vote.

I voted.

And I voted straight-line Republican. Said NO to every bond measure, every feel-good idea on the ballot...

There is one other way I can still vote- with my feet. I finish my degree in March next year... And then I'm leaving this cess-pool of Socialism, which I've referred to for years as Kalifornia.... Had Simon won, I would have considered staying... Even though all of the job-offers I have thus-far received have been mid-west or east coast...

But not now.

It's time to leave. North Flori-duh is looking pretty good, right now....

20 posted on 11/06/2002 12:13:58 PM PST by Capitalist Eric
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