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To: HamiltonJay
I see, so you are investigating an ongoing investigation, a terrorist is killing people, and at least one of them has been an FBI agent, and you think that it is a good idea that the investigative procedures and investigators be broadcast to the entire world?? Bafoonery.

1) You repeat your error. The person killed was an analyst, not an agent. This is not helping your credibility.

2) Investigative procedures? You mean, reading the serial number off the receiver of a rifle. Oh, wow. Real secret procedure, that. Can't have the world knowing that FBI agents are able to read. As for the investigators themselves, this was in no way an undercover operation. There's a legitimate place for those, but this isn't it.

OBTW, your insults aren't helping your credibility, either.

136 posted on 11/05/2002 11:51:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: ArrogantBustard
You repeat your error. The person killed was an analyst, not an agent. This is not helping your credibility.

My credibility is not in question here, my arguments are not based on whether you believe I am a credible individual or not. This is not a trial, this is a discussion regarding the actions of this individual and the FBI.

Investigative procedures? You mean, reading the serial number off the receiver of a rifle. Oh, wow. Real secret procedure, that. Can't have the world knowing that FBI agents are able to read. As for the investigators themselves, this was in no way an undercover operation. There's a legitimate place for those, but this isn't it.

I see, so ignore the fact that videotape is edited etc to make people and situations look different than they are... something the press is notorious for. I know of nobody that has any media savvy that likes camera's or microphone's shoved in their faces. Was it openly public knowledge the FBI was following up on owners of .223 rifles at the time? They weren't hiding it, but weren't advertising it either... lest not that I saw in any reporting, so maybe they wanted to keep a low profile... most investigators aren't out to be the center of attention, and it has nothing to do with them doing things wrong. But of course, mean old government is just out to screw the little guy.... and take away his gun. Wrong. A standard investigation, agents doing their job, and some live one wants to make a federal case out of what should have been a 15 minute civil conversation. But no, start quoting remember Ruby Ridge and the governments out to get me, and turn what should be nothing more than a quick conversation into a confrontation for no other reason than paranoia. This man could have simply told the officers, nope, I won't talk to you, instead of jerking them around.

OBTW, your insults aren't helping your credibility, either.

I have not insulted anyone, other than calling the actions of this person a JERK, which is description of his actions.

141 posted on 11/05/2002 12:11:58 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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