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To: xJones
Tell me this, if Pollard was an ethnic Iraqi and was paid by the Iraqi government to pass on classified information that they could use and sell to other countries hostile to the U.S., would the ethnic Iraqi Pollard deserve life in prison?

First, I know that Israel admitted that Pollard was a spy for them in 1998 in the hopes of increasing Pollard's chance of getting him released by the Clinton administration. We don't know how much he was paid (if at all) by the Israeli government.  Anyone know?

Second, I've already commented on a similar case -- Vanunu, an ethnic Moroccan who worked in a Israeli nuclear centre and blew the whistle on Israeli possession of nukes -- in the previous post. I think 18 years is too long, certainly not life.

The U.S. had pledged to share information with Israel -- and did not.  The U.S. betrayed it's ally before Pollard passed the first secret. Pollard thought it strange and dangerous that the data concerning the Iraqi poison gas operation was being withheld from Israel. "I was so scared about what was being withheld, and the more I dug, the more horrified I became about the extent of the betrayal."

Pollard's concerns were exacerbated when a superior officer told him, "Jews are too sensitive about gas."

48 posted on 11/04/2002 8:21:05 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
The U.S. had pledged to share information with Israel -- and did not. The U.S. betrayed it's ally

I'll admit that an invitation to dinner does, strictly speaking, constitute an invitation to share something. It's an invitation to share some food.

If you should accept this invitation to share, and following dinner I discourage you from heftying my silverware away in a pillowcase, have I, too, betrayed you?

50 posted on 11/04/2002 8:37:19 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JohnathanRGalt
We don't know how much he was paid (if at all) by the Israeli government. Anyone know?

Glad you asked. Some yokels really are uppity, aren't they? But let's read:

"Eitan, together with Sella and Yagur, gave detailed instructions to Pollard about the classified data that they wanted him to obtain. They also discussed payments to Jay. The spy would receive a salary of $1,500 per month. Other gifts would follow, including reimbursements for Pollard’s trips and an expensive diamond and sapphire ring that ended up on Anne’s finger as her engagement ring..."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/spies/pollard/5.htm

Pollard was quite a well motivated patriot, wasn't he...?

53 posted on 11/04/2002 8:53:06 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Pollard

I don't think you understand. It's like we're speaking two different languages. Pollard is not the "American Dreyfuss". Captain Dreyfuss in France was framed and sent to Devil's Island. Pollard was guilty and deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison for betraying his country. It makes no difference that he is Jewish by ethnic background, don't you see that his disagreements with American foreign policy didn't allow treason? Are we speaking the same language?

Pollard's concerns were exacerbated when a superior officer told him, "Jews are too sensitive about gas."

That comment does not excuse his treasonable acts against his country, and Americans don't feel guilt about gassing Jews, why should we?

Hello! Let's stop playing around and start reading from the same page, shall we?

54 posted on 11/04/2002 8:53:09 PM PST by xJones
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To: JohnathanRGalt
The Washington Post, June 9,1986:

"One senior (Israeli) official, pressed on the question of whether the $300,000 Pollard allegedly was promised over a 10-year period by his Israeli control agents did not suggest something wider than a small 'renegade' spying operation appeared annoyed when he retorted: 'Thirty thousand a year is peanuts. . .' ."

55 posted on 11/04/2002 8:55:58 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Some more URLs from this "MUSLIM", as you, JohnathanRGalt, called me:

http://www.foreigncorrespondent.com/archive/pollard.html

"According to CIA sources, Pollard provided Israeli intelligence with names of important American agents inside the former Soviet Union and Russia who had supplied information on East Bloc weapons and war plans. How the agent's names were linked to the secrets they supplied - a major breach of basic intelligence security - remains a major mystery. Some of the enormously sensitive secrets stolen by Pollard were reportedly either sold, or bartered, by Israel to the Soviet Union.

"A number of key CIA agents in the East Bloc were reportedly executed as a result of Pollard spying. KGB likely gained access to top-secret US codes - either directly from Israel, or through spies in Israel's government. In short, Pollard's treachery caused one of the worst security disasters in modern American history.

"FBI investigators discovered Pollard was being directed to steal specific secret data by a senior Administration official, known as "Mr. X." But the White House, unwilling to stir up a domestic political storm, quashed the investigation. To my knowledge, three previous cases of high-ranking US government officials caught passing top secret information to Israel have been similarly hushed up. Two were senior defense department officials under Reagan, one a top State Department official in a previous administration. None were prosecuted."

http://www.foreigncorrespondent.com/archive/pollard.html

56 posted on 11/04/2002 9:10:13 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Hey, I'm talking to you.
57 posted on 11/04/2002 9:11:09 PM PST by gaijin
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To: JohnathanRGalt
"The U.S. had pledged to share information with Israel -- and did not. The U.S. betrayed it's ally before Pollard passed the first secret. Pollard thought it strange and dangerous that the data concerning the Iraqi poison gas operation was being withheld from Israel. "I was so scared about what was being withheld, and the more I dug, the more horrified I became about the extent of the betrayal.""

You mean the U.S. betrays allies? Surely not! The U.S. government does NO wrong, you fiend! The U.S. never betrays allies, -coff-Kurds-coff-coff-INC...

70 posted on 11/05/2002 2:44:28 AM PST by Frances_Marion
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