Abortion rights face national test -- but not in **CA**

sacbee.com ^ | Saturday, November 2, 2002 | By Mareva Brown -- Bee Staff Writer

[let freedom sing]

Abortion foes rejoiced last year when George W. Bush took office, believing they had a long-awaited ally in the White House.

The president hasn't disappointed. In its first 18 months, the Bush administration has appointed dozens of conservative federal judges who are anti-abortion, has declared developing fetuses eligible for government-funded health insurance and Thursday rescinded support for international family planning principles that had been adopted by 179 nations.

[let freedom sing]

"...and preserve these blessings of liberty, to ourselves and to our posterity."

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"It took a while to make the residents understand that if 43 percent of their patients were going to have this procedure before menopause, they clearly should know something about the procedure, even if they don't perform it," he said. "And to that extent, this requirement makes a great deal of sense."

Ya'l understand the law, now, don't you? /sarcasm

[Gophack]

"There's just so much 'oomph' you have when you have declining enrollment and increasingly older members."

Carole Migden, liberal lesbian legislator from San Francisco, obviously hasn't seen the new registration numbers. In the last four years, Republicans have gone up nearly a full point in statewide registration, and Democrats have gone down two full points. Declining enrollment? It'll only decline if we join the Democrats on abortion.

Dump Democrats!

[muawiyah]

By making abortion a litmust test the Democrats have condemned themselves in the long run to permanent minority status as they decline into biological extinction.

Within 20 years it will become nearly impossible to find candidates for Schools of Journalism (for one example), or as propaganda flaks for allegedly environmental advocacy groups.

[Gophack]

"It took a while to make the residents understand that if 43 percent of their patients were going to have this procedure before menopause, they clearly should know something about the procedure, even if they don't perform it," he said. "And to that extent, this requirement makes a great deal of sense."

Very sad. We need to lower that 43 percent. Those women are being blackmailed into abortion. Many of them, especially young women, just don't know what they are doing. They aren't given facts, just lies. We need to educate them.

[Paleo Conservative]

By making abortion a litmust test the Democrats have condemned themselves in the long run to permanent minority status as they decline into biological extinction.

Most leftists who get college degrees major in liberal arts or other non-quantitative fields. They don't understand the mathematical implications of exponential growth or decline.

[Cicero]

Younger women tend to be more pro-life than their mothers' generation. One obvious reason is that, although they control the schools and colleges, and therefore are in an excellent position to brainwash our children, the leftists are aborting themselves into extinction. Gays, lesbians, the transgendered, abortion advocates: these folks don't have or want a lot of kids. They live in the present and reject the future.

Since Roe v. Wade, roughly half of America's children have been aborted. Among the other half, the survivors, there are a fair number of pro-lifers or people who are open to that message when they hear it.

[montag813]

"I think the extremist, shrill Republican voice on this issue has been dulled," said Assemblywoman Carole Migden, D-San Francisco

How is it "extremist" to let the States decide what to do about Abortion, as the Founders intended?

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Carole Migden, liberal lesbian legislator from San Francisco

I'm more than a little suspicious about lesbis who advocate abortion-- 43% of lesbis won't have any WANT of abortion by the time of menopause. Of the PROJECTED 43%, I wonder how many women would CHOOSE an abortion without the constant vocal, screaming-lesbi cheerleaders making abortion some P/C CHOICE?

Republicans have gone up nearly a full point in statewide registration, and Democrats have gone down two full points.

:-)

[madprof98]

Very sad. We need to lower that 43 percent.

That "43 percent" figure may be way too high, at least outside California. As I recall, it was a projection made some years back by the Alan Guttmacher Institute, Planned Parenthood's very obliging research arm, based on "present trends" at the time. But since the time it was made, abortions have declined dramatically, and many of the procedures today are actually performed on women who have previously aborted, sometimes more than once. It continues to be cited because it generally serves the interests of the two sides. The pro-aborts say it shows that abortion is personally acceptable to almost a majority of women. The pro-lifers say it shows how far down the road to perdition the pro-aborts have taken us.

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How is it "extremist" to let the States decide what to do about Abortion, as the Founders intended?

It's extremist, when lesbi cheerleaders are the most vocal voice in the state legislature. The Afro community NOW has a 70% out of wedlock birthrate, and now it seems to be a problem of ACCESS? You tell me, what is wrong with this picture?

[Theodore R.]

CA's addiction to abortion is a major reason why this state is in low-term moral, social, and economic decline. In time, the GOP may have to leave the Democrats largely unopposed except in a few conservative enclaves here and there. Opposing Sen. Barbara Boxer in 2004 will be a waste of money. The people of CA will not replace these liberal officeholders.

[Slyfox]

A woman's right to choose an abortion is cemented among her basic rights to privacy.

To take that 'reasoning', John Wayne Gacy was within his rights to kill
as many boys as he wanted in the privacy of his own basement.

[let freedom sing]

A Republican who thinks the GOP is not "republican" enough and does not fire up its base sufficiently to win the close elections

Start praying for a Simon win-- that ought to warm you up. Then we can pray Babs away, later. :-)

[nickcarraway]

"It took a while to make the residents understand that if 43 percent of their patients were going to have this procedure before menopause, they clearly should know something about the procedure, even if they don't perform it," he said. "And to that extent, this requirement makes a great deal of sense."

Maybe they should require more training in breast cancer, too, so they can address those patient's needs.

[nickcarraway]

Polls have shown that up to two-thirds of California residents favor abortion rights, as do a majority of the state's Republicans

Is that why California Republicans picked pro-life Bill Simon over pro-abortion Richard Riordan?

[Arthur McGowan]

How is it "extremist" to let the States decide what to do about Abortion, as the Founders intended?

It's a bit anachronistic to say that the Founders "intended" the States to "decide" about abortion. Abortion was not a commercial enterprise. And the dangers of abortion pretty much kept it in check through most of history. It was a secret, shameful, and very dangerous thing to do.

The Founders left all homicides to State law, also. But it would be highly misleading to say that they approved of homicide, or would have been unperturbed if a state decided to legalize homicide.

The constitutionally correct response to Roe v. Wade in 1973 would have been: Disobedience to Roe by all the governors--as required by the moral law and international law whenever a government commands the commission of murder--c.f. the Nuremburg Trials. By following the course of action that they DID, every governor of every state for the past 30 years has been a collaborator in homicides, because every governor has participated in actions that have ensured that abortionists are able to commit homicides. That's the definition of "accomplice."

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as do a majority of the state's Republicans

yes, I'd question that statistic... what was the question and who asked?

[let freedom sing]

The constitutionally correct response to Roe v. Wade in 1973 would have been: Disobedience to Roe by all the governors--as required by the moral law and international law whenever a government commands the commission of murder--c.f. the Nuremburg Trials. By following the course of action that they DID, every governor of every state for the past 30 years has been a collaborator in homicides, because every governor has participated in actions that have ensured that abortionists are able to commit homicides. That's the definition of "accomplice."

"Until that time, Maxwell, until that time. "