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I looked at the data for my city. Some engineering or computer-related companies seem to really rely on h1b a lot and others don't at all. Because some companies have a lot of listings and some are not listed at all.

But what shocked me is all the non-engineering, non-hightech, non computer related jobs that are listed. They have h1b's doing all kinds of things. Even marketing. I saw that 7-11 brought some people in to manage something and by the pay these guys get it seems they're probably managing a store or a store-clerk's boss at most. They've got all kinds of cooks for restaurants. Lots of people taking care of horses, domestic servants apparently too. They've got accounting people, finance people, architects, nurses. A lot of business-people feel it is a perfectly legitimate strategy to create paperwork to document that they can't find an american and then get an h1b to do it instead. They get to pay less than they would for an american and on top of that they get someone who almost certainly will fill the position for 6 years without complaint, without a raise, without job turnover, cheerfully working overtime and being subservient. Because if they don't, then they get fired and then they go immediately home and they let down their whole family in that they don't get to become citizens of US.

It amounts to a huge erosion of a citizen's rights if the job market in our own nation is to be destroyed by importing indentured servants in this manner. The free market and stable economy we have here is what produces this fruit that is the jobs in our economy. And we citizens are supposed to yield that fruit to foreigners?? Did the foreigners build the stabilityin our country that is so valuable? When the leaders in Washington get us into a war will these foreigners step forward and fight and die?? Our wages are driven downward by a government program and then when the government doesn't have the tax base it needs to pay for social security and medicaire, then will the foreigners pay those taxes instead of us??

We have real problems in our economy, but these problems are a lot more related to problems with our government than problems with our people. We need to address the real problems. Giving business a tool for smashing wages down is not solving the problem and that's what h1b is plain and simple. We should all vote against every single politician who supports it.

We have real problems in our economy, but these problems are a lot more related to problems with our government than problems with our people. We need to address the real problems. Giving business a tool for smashing wages down is not solving the problem and that's what h1b is plain and simple. We should all vote against every single politician who supports it.

Very well said. And yes, until we force politicians to take this issue seriously, they will continue to capitulate to the whims of industrial lobbyists. If they all get kicked out on their butts and are forced to TRY to find a real job, perhaps they'll see the light. Those who replace them might just realize that it's not a good idea to overlook hundreds of thousands of people who actually go out and vote.