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To: FormerLurker
They most certainly do pay U.S. income taxes, and FICA, and the employer pays their FICA contribution, too, and they cannot be reimbursed for FICA even though many leave after the term of their visas (6 years max - versus 10 years minumum for SS benefits). There are bilateral tax treaties with Canada and some Eurpoean countries that enable H1-Bs to pay into their home SS system. But no treaty with India, and no treaty with Russia, at least when I employed a bunch of Russians.

We get and keep ALL their FICA. More than 10 billion per year.

IANAL, but I'm pretty sure they are liable for U.S. income tax, too. Certainly if a U.S. citizen works overseas, they pay the host country's tax (with the exception of U.N. employees in some places).

134 posted on 11/04/2002 7:30:14 AM PST by eno_
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To: eno_
They most certainly do pay U.S. income taxes, and FICA, and the employer pays their FICA contribution, too, and they cannot be reimbursed for FICA even though many leave after the term of their visas (6 years max - versus 10 years minumum for SS benefits).

That is CURRENTLY true concerning Indians. I may have misread an article that I had found in relation to totalization agreements which do in fact exempt foreign nationals from US FICA. However, Indians amongst others are lobbying Congress to pass totalization treaties with them.

Taxing times: Nasscom pitches for totalisation deal with US, UK

There are bilateral tax treaties with Canada and some Eurpoean countries that enable H1-Bs to pay into their home SS system. But no treaty with India, and no treaty with Russia, at least when I employed a bunch of Russians.

There's MANY countries that have totalization agreements with the US.

From U.S. INTERNATIONAL SOCIAL SECURITY AGREEMENTS

U.S. Social Security Agreements

Country Entry into Force
Italy November 1, 1978
Germany December 1, 1979
Switzerland November 1, 1980
Belgium July 1, 1984
Norway July 1, 1984
Canada August 1, 1984
United Kingdom   January 1, 1985
Sweden January 1, 1987
Spain April 1, 1988
France July 1, 1988
Portugal August 1, 1989
Netherlands  November 1, 1990
Austria November 1, 1991
Finland November 1, 1992
Ireland September 1, 1993
Luxembourg   November 1, 1993
Greece September 1, 1994
South Korea April 1, 2001
Chile December 1, 2001
Australia October 1, 2002

We get and keep ALL their FICA. More than 10 billion per year.

For NOW we get to keep the FICA from Indian nationals. That may change. As far as this 10 billion dollar figure, do you have any source information on that?

135 posted on 11/04/2002 9:14:25 AM PST by FormerLurker
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