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To: Mr. Lucky
I know you have the books but this is what he said..

We have no wish either to see or hear Moses.

Job . . . is merely the argument of a fable . . . Ecclesiastes ought to have been more complete. There is too much incoherent matter in it . . . Solomon did not, therefore, write this book . . . The book of Esther I toss into the Elbe. I am such an enemy to the book of Esther that I wish it did not exist, for it Judaizes too much and has in it a great deal of heathenish naughtiness . . . The history of Jonah is so monstrous that it is absolutely incredible . . .

He thought James an espistle of straw...Hebrews...bits of wood, hay and straw...

'There are many things objectionable in this book,' he says of the Apocalypse, . . . 'I feel an aversion to it, and to me this is a sufficient reason for rejecting it' . . .



282 posted on 11/01/2002 4:16:00 PM PST by Irisshlass
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To: Irisshlass
I've GOT to get home and do my chores or the cows will kick the fence down, but I would be happy to continue a comparison of our faiths at some other time.

A couple of quick comments, however:

What you refer to as the Apocalypse, Protestants refer to as Revelation and it most assuredly is a book in our Bible.

Luther was nothing if not occassionally intemperate, but his "epistle of Straw" comment is generally not placed in its correct context by his distractors. He was actually making a scriptural reference to 1 Corinthians 3:12. (as an aside, Luther is often referred to as the Lutheran Pope; he isn't. Lutherans do not believe him to be infalible and acknowledge he was a sinner, just as we believe all men but one were sinners)

Luther believed that the Gospel provided the solid foundation upon which Chritian faith could be built; that straw could be placed upon the foundation, but that a foundation could not be built upon straw. And, yes, the book of James IS in in the Protestant Bible.

You know, it's entirely possible that Catholic teachings about the Lutheran Church can be as misguided as I'm sure can be Lutheran teachings about the Catholic Church.

289 posted on 11/01/2002 5:12:27 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Irisshlass
At what stage of his life did he write this...I understand that towards the end of his life he was subject to a stange"nervous" condition..subject to rages and confusion much like an alzheimers condition. He wasn't known for his more contraversial views on scriptures and his anti-semitism until later in his life.
We do revere him for what he did in his much younger life, his questioning of established religious practises and the corruption plaguing the church as a whole leading to the Reformation!
353 posted on 11/02/2002 3:21:08 AM PST by mdmathis6
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