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To: Ahban
You really didn't expect the Darwininians to admit anything did you? My first point addressed that no matter what the outcome of this experiment it would have been used as evidence for Darwininianism. That has been amply displayed. You are even chided for daring to imply that the experiment had no scientific claim to anything but "have demonstrated just how barbs and rachides are formed in a modern chicken". Nevertheless, I think you can see that if the results were carried beyond the scientific pronouncements that the study demonstrates, those results are counter to what many "Darwininians" have stated prior to the experiment, namely ---The standing hypothesis among many paleontologists has long been that the scales on dinosaurs must have lengthened into rachides that then became notched to form barbs and barbules.

The argument will then be put forth that not everyone thought this way, but that will demonstrate my contention that Darwininianism is unfalsifiable.

152 posted on 11/02/2002 9:44:14 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
You are absolutely correct. I acting on my hopes about these people, instead of my cynical side, and keep coming away disappointed.
153 posted on 11/02/2002 11:53:58 AM PST by Ahban
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To: AndrewC
The argument will then be put forth that not everyone thought this way, but that will demonstrate my contention that Darwininianism is unfalsifiable.

Whether barbs or rachides formed first is not put forth as evidence of evolution. That's already settled. The question is what the specific pathway of feather evolution is, not whether feather evolution took place to begin with. Do you understand the difference? You're categorically mistaken. The claims of Darwininianism (sic) as unfalsifiable are irrelevant to this study or the claims made by the authors.

172 posted on 11/02/2002 5:30:47 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: AndrewC
You really didn't expect the Darwininians to admit anything did you?

Heck no! All they can do is filibuster the thread with irrelevant statements and vacuous assertions. They do not even understand the article and can only repeat 'well somebody says so so it must be true'. They are completely lame in the face of facts.

187 posted on 11/03/2002 12:37:03 PM PST by gore3000
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