[VadeRetro]

To me: They took a creature that already had feathers, and mutated its genes so that it produced mutated feathers (not even scales, so not only did they not make a lizard go through the mutations needed for scales, but they did not even 'backwards engineer' a feather to scales)- er, even if they did, that last would constitue a reduction in complexity that was already present.

To gore: As long as we have this little mutual admiration society, your #81-86 is a devastating series of posts. Very specific and relavent cites. Facts facts facts.

I want to rant on and on at the "You can't make me see or understand" nonsense, but I'll defer to Nebullis's post 120. Says it all, really.

[Ahban]

I want to rant on and on at the "You can't make me see or understand" nonsense, but I'll defer to Nebullis's post 120. Says it all, really.

I'm sorry you feel that way, about the ranting I mean. I prefer dialog to ranting myself. The things you put in quotes are not a quote from me, not does it reflect my honest efforts to obtain understanding.

Nebullis's 120 does not 'say it all' but rather makes a series of assertions that she makes no attempt to back up with facts. Nor does she even attempt to refute the objections that I and others have raised. She simply brushes them aside with bald assertion. I hardly consider that 'saying it all'. How can you 'say it all' in a post that has not even attempted to address specific objections?

[gore3000]

I want to rant on and on at the "You can't make me see or understand" nonsense,

You certainly do not wish to see and do not wish to understand that the article is total nonsense. That you have partners in crime who can only rant against what the anti-evolutionists have to say shows that you neither understand the article nor the questions it raises.