To: yendu bwam
I value my family's safety on the road more than the 'right' of a teen to do drugs and drive.
You create a strawman. Nobody here said that teens have the right to do drugs and drive. I'm sure everybody here agrees that driving under the influence of any drug is dangerous and therefor illegal. There are laws against it.
Read the first sentence: "Elizabeth Dole wants to require all teenagers to pass a drug test before getting a driver's license."
In effect, a innocent citizen will be forced to have his property (well, blood or urin) searched by law enforcment. If I remeber correctly, people should be save from unreasonable searches.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Well, that's the way I see it.
431 posted on
11/07/2002 9:09:25 AM PST by
SkyRat
To: SkyRat
In effect, a innocent citizen will be forced to have his property (well, blood or urin) searched by law enforcment. If I remeber correctly, people should be save from unreasonable searches. Sure, I understand your position. However, I, and the Supreme Court believe that drug tests, in certain situations (like with high school kids involved in after school activities) don't violate the Constitution. We don't let people with poor eyesight drive, and we require them to submit to eye tests. To me, it's not a unreasonable search to require a kid to pee in a cup (and I don't know many kids who consider their pee their personal property!) to see if he/she's doing drugs - before allowing that kid to potentially endanger others (including my family and friends) on the road. To drive on the road, you should have to prove you're fit. Otherwise, others are endangered.
To: SkyRat
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, I honestly don't believe peeing in a cup makes me insecure in my person. My body is not violated in any way, nor endangered, nor injured, nor hurt. My pee is a waste product which we actively work to flush from our homes every day.
To: SkyRat
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, It comes down to this, SkyRat. You think testing someone's pee for drugs before getting a drivers license is unreasonable. I do not. The Supreme Court does not. (The Court HAS approved drug tests for kids in extra-curricular activies and in other circumstances. I don't have the cite - but you can easily get information on these cases.) And the voters of North Carolina do not - since they elected Elizabeth Dole.
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