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To: rdb3
Of course you want a vivrant, articulate, tough-minded candidate who appears to be genuinely concerned about constituents. But we fall into the mental trap set by the Left when we automatically assume that a candidate must be black for black voters to accept him or her. This is nothing more than another form of identity politics. We lose that game.

See my post to myself above. You are saying exactly what Niger describes in the paragraphs I quoted. You are speaking and thinking exactly like a Republican. lol.

7 posted on 10/29/2002 8:42:31 AM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi
You are speaking and thinking exactly like a Republican. lol.

Even though I refer to myself as a post-conservative independent. Whoda thunk it? ;-)

Anyhoo, I think that we really need to get back to the basics here and come to a conclusion among conservatives as to how they want to address black voters. To be specific, these questions must be both raised and answered: Will conservatives demonstrate their belief in conservatism by taking the conservative message to the black voters? And, Do conservatives really, really want blacks among them?

I'm not so sure what the answer is to my last question. Point of fact, on these boards you will find vociferous pointing out any and all shortcomings and failures of black people. You can set your watch by it. Then, if someone initiates a thread that talks about a triumph of either a black person or group, it is immediately pilloried by stating that somehow a "handout" or "government program" played a part (even when there's no direct evidence which points to this as a fact).

Don't mistake this as whining. Far from it. You can not be a black, outspoken non-Dem on the Right and be a punk at the same time. It's impossible, and you won't survive that way. However, I have no choice other than to admit what I witness. And what I'm witnessing is a definite cooling to the idea of really taking the conservative message to where it is needed most, and that's among those blacks who are used to further destroy America.

So, on the Left the using of blacks goes on unabated. For some on the Right, you have the perfect scapegoat in those same blacks. That's a fact.

This is why I am not a conservative. I'm a post-conservative. What is that? A transcending of conservatism. Why? Because I've transcended conservatism. For far too many on the Right, an unquestioning loyalty to the nostrums of "conservatism" must take place to be considered a "real conservative," even though what is defined as conservatism slides. This is just as bad as those blacks who have the nerve to tell other blacks that they are not "black." I can only speak for me, but, I will say that I didn't escape the tyranny and slavery of one mindset to then immediatley shackle myself to another mindset. I'm free. And when I say that I'm free, damn it, I mean that I'm FREE.

In closing, conservatives on all levels must come to a conclusion. Then we'll start talking about campaigning to black people.

21 posted on 10/29/2002 9:51:46 AM PST by rdb3
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