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1 posted on 10/26/2002 8:48:34 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Cool!
2 posted on 10/26/2002 8:50:42 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Interesting. I had no idea there was such a thing. Of course, if it was something else, I suppose we will discover what it was on some battlefield someday.
3 posted on 10/26/2002 8:53:13 PM PDT by templar
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Valium Gas Used in Raid

Putin's little helpers?

4 posted on 10/26/2002 8:53:51 PM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Apologies for the squished formatting.

This thread was posted on 6/12/02:
US plan to strike enemy with Valium

5 posted on 10/26/2002 8:54:03 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Why couldn't we use this against any future highjackers, should we have a repeat performance? Supplying the pilots with O2 masks and a steel door to keep the bad guys out of the cockpit of course.

MKM

6 posted on 10/26/2002 8:58:09 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: Looking for Diogenes
valium gas what a cool idea valium is absorbed rapidly in the lungs of course if you inhale to much you may just go to sleep and forget to breathe
8 posted on 10/26/2002 9:00:12 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Nothing that the Russians do surprises me. Actually, if it is Valium gas, that is probably the least harmful of the gases that they have. Earlier, I heard it was nerve gas. I still do not trust the "old guard" Russians. In fact, I think their stand against U.S. taking action in Iraq is mainly because they do not want us to see all the "evil" gases, weapons, etc. that they have provided Saddam.
9 posted on 10/26/2002 9:02:23 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: Looking for Diogenes
 "They spent 30 years putting it together. We're prevented from
 doing that by treaty and executive order."

Yeah, it's honorable going through history with
one hand tied behind your back.  It'll also get
you killed when fighting martyr-prone enemies
with no scruples.  We'll learn eventually.

12 posted on 10/26/2002 9:10:29 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: Looking for Diogenes; *WacoHorror
BZ was a research focus of the U.S. Army during the Cold War at the former Edgewood Area labs near Washington.

This admission damns the FBI at Waco: They could have sedated all the Branch Davidians and gone in to arrest them. But the fact that they went in with tanks and tear gas indicates they intended all along to kill the Davidians, not rescue them. There were specops troops there, they would have known about sleeping gas.

13 posted on 10/26/2002 9:19:31 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: Looking for Diogenes
I have a friend (ex-OSS(!)) who says that it was well-known that the Russians had several such agents. One he called 'silver dust'. He said it could be spread in a room (presumably by some sort of 'grenade'?) and "everybody would go down like a stone" (i.e., knocked out). "Most of them could be revived," he also told me. Hmm. Not all, just most.

When I asked him if the U.S. had something similar, he clammed up.

--Boris

16 posted on 10/26/2002 10:34:58 PM PDT by boris
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To: Looking for Diogenes
Experts said the Russians may have released a gas concentration of a powerful sedative like Valium

I doubt it was something like Valium.......so many other agents could have been used that would have been much faster.

21 posted on 10/27/2002 12:50:41 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Looking for Diogenes
They should have done something similar to what happend to Cheech and Chong at the end of "Up In Smoke".
29 posted on 10/27/2002 6:13:30 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Looking for Diogenes
More "experts". Well, I'll wait and see on this one.
36 posted on 10/27/2002 6:42:05 AM PST by krb
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How do you say, "Let's roll" in Russian? "Pokatili" according to Russian FReeper, Ivan Ivanov.

D@mn reporters can't bear to admit that regular civilians are capable of
defending themselves from evil preditors like these Chechen terrorists.
They have to paint them as "panicked" and "desperate."

I say these brave Russian citizens deserve medals. I suspect Russian
President Putin and the members of the Duma will agree.
41 posted on 10/27/2002 3:06:42 PM PST by anymouse
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