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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Yeah...this is where we disagree. The moral fabric that supports the constitution has been dead for some time now.

And how did that happen?
Those things that went in the right direction for America, those things that lead to life, liberty, prosperity, and happiness, were replaced by liberalism indoctrination. God was eliminated from the consciousness. Now, there is no right or wrong. All sin is "Constitutional", as long as it doesn't hurt a libertarian or left winger.
They called it "freedom of choice". Their choice led to the demise of America from within.
Where did unwed mothers come from? It used to be a bad thing.
Where did welfare come from? People used to frown on pan handlers.
Where did SS fraud come from? Work ethics used to be important.
Where did Aids come from ? It was brought to America through the homosexual crowd. They used to keep these people confined for the saftey of the innocent.
Where did food stamps, Free housing, free clothing, free medical, free legal come from?
All these things came from liberalism and it's "chosen lifestyle protected by the Constitution". Every one. People started to fall like flies. They became hungry, homeless, infected and plagued. They had their children unfed and dieing. All hope was failing. Someone had to help. Presto. The Federal Government - "For the social welfare." Yet, the libertarian party refers to it as a good thing. And they bitch because that which they helped create has left all this for the next generation. Shouldn't they be condemming themselves before they condemn Republicans for being nice enough to try to clean it up?

111 posted on 10/26/2002 1:26:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
God was eliminated from the consciousness. Now, there is no right or wrong. All sin is "Constitutional", as long as it doesn't hurt a libertarian or left winger.

I don't buy that. There's always been right and wrong; right and wrong have been around for a long long time. Thats like saying that there are people out there that really believe that abortion is, in any case right. Thats a bunch of BS...deep down they know its wrong, they have to...its part of being human, they may spout intellectual rhetoric trying to JUSTIFY their action and RELIEVE themself from the responsibility of killing a human being...but it is wrong, and they know it. And thats just what government has done throughout the years, its JUSTIFIED reasons for people to reap the benefits of federally sponsored welfare programs, federally sponsored speical interests, and other federally sponsored ponzi schemes so that they are RELIEVED of responsibility of their actions; because you and me pay for it, indirectly. Liberal support feeds on this concept...not the LP, as you have stated.

All these things came from liberalism and it's "chosen lifestyle protected by the Constitution"...Yet, the libertarian party refers to it as a good thing. And they bitch because that which they helped create has left all this for the next generation.

Again, a federally sponsored and funded "chosen lifestyle" is alot different than a "chosen lifestyle" free from public funding and responsibility...and I argue that there would be alot less "alternative" lifestyles to deal with in this scenario.

Shouldn't they be condemming themselves before they condemn Republicans for being nice enough to try to clean it up?

LMAO! NICE enough? Yeah..trying to clean it up with more and more failing, interventionist government programs...where tax burden increases and civil liberties decrease.

114 posted on 10/26/2002 2:10:03 PM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus
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To: concerned about politics
"The moral fabric that supports the constitution has been dead for some time now." "And how did that happen?"

130+ years of Republicans and Democrats sharing 100% power over the government.

If 2 criminals hijack an airplane, do you let the more conservative one go free?

121 posted on 10/26/2002 2:46:57 PM PDT by Mark Felton
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