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Spitting Libertarian Druid Gary Copeland stands by role in ruckus
The Oakland Tribune ^ | October 26, 2002 | Josh Richman

Posted on 10/26/2002 3:13:57 AM PDT by Roscoe

While most political parties -- particularly third parties -- fight for more publicity, California's Libertarians might have wanted a bit less in 2002. The state Libertarian Party's leadership disowned gubernatorial candidate Gary David Copeland last month after Copeland spit upon Los Angeles KABC-AM radio host Brian Whitman.

Basically, Copeland and Whitman argued over whether undocumented immigrants should be eligible for California driver's licenses.

Copeland called Whitman a racist.

Whitman called Copeland a lunatic.

Whitman shut off Copeland's microphone and insulted him.

Copeland expectorated.

(Excerpt) Read more at oaklandtribune.com ...


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To: Demidog
The libertarians are not afraid of opposing viewpoints

Especially when they're in bed with 'em, like the Greens.

41 posted on 10/26/2002 11:50:20 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
I note your approval of the communist manifesto.
42 posted on 10/26/2002 11:50:50 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Roscoe
The republicans are in bed with the democrats as evidenced by the republican and democrat position on the MA income tax measure.

The libertarians trust that the people are smart enough to chose between communism and freedom. The "non-partisan" organization you quoted is neiether non-partisan nor freedom advocating.

Your true colors are showing (Red).

43 posted on 10/26/2002 11:53:20 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
I note your approval of the communist manifesto.

How "Tim Leary."

44 posted on 10/26/2002 11:54:44 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Tim Leary was a liberal. You approve of and support the progressive income tax - a plank of the communist manifesto.

Congratulations.

45 posted on 10/26/2002 11:59:46 AM PDT by Demidog
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To: A CA Guy
"They did get 1/3rd of a percent in the primary. Out of millions that voted, CA had 3,330 or so Libertarians.
I have more problems with the fact that they get Democrats elected all the time"

If 3330 votes is all it takes to get a Democrat elected, you Republicrats have major problems.

46 posted on 10/26/2002 12:01:43 PM PDT by HetLoo
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To: Demidog
Actually, there's been an income tax in Massachusetts for more than a century and it provides about 60% of the state's revenues. Carla's scheme is delusional and unworkable.
47 posted on 10/26/2002 12:02:02 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: A CA Guy
I have more problems with the fact that they get Democrats elected all the time.

0.33% of the vote makes that much difference? Maybe the Republicans can find ONE candidate that is 0.33% better than Greyout, or any other Demonrat. Most people are sick and tired of voting for tepid, insipid candidates just because the other guy is slightly worse. Then sitting back and not seeing any real difference in the resulting government's haste to lord over the peons.

When was the last time you voted FOR someone, as opposed to AGAINST his opponent?

48 posted on 10/26/2002 12:03:41 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Demidog
Tim Leary was a liberal.

As previously posted regarding the Libertarian candidate for governor, Gary "the Spitter" Copeland:

"He is a Druid, adhering to a Celtic philosophy of nature-oriented magic; he also proudly recalls his pro-LSD work with drug guru Timothy Leary."

49 posted on 10/26/2002 12:05:24 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Demidog
Actually, I would question just how "libertarian" this guy really was. Afterall, libertarians don't support drivers' licenses, certainly to expand the concept should not be on the cards.

The local party should have ditched him for that.
50 posted on 10/26/2002 12:07:16 PM PDT by HetLoo
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To: null and void
0.33% of the vote makes that much difference?

Don't shortchange 'em. They're actually more like 0.6% of the California electorate.

The governor's race in California probably won't be that close, but the Senate race in Colorado might be.

51 posted on 10/26/2002 12:09:28 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: null and void
Most people are sick and tired of voting for tepid, insipid candidates just because the other guy is slightly worse.

Copeland's pretty awful.

52 posted on 10/26/2002 12:11:40 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Demidog
And Rick Stanley, the Libertarian candidate for the United States Senate in Colorado, has formed an alliance with the Greens.

The libertarians are not afraid of opposing viewpoints like the republicans and democrats.

Boy, I can't wait to see their platform. Something like, "We will protect your property rights by abolishing your property rights."

53 posted on 10/26/2002 12:12:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Roscoe
The ballance of my post still stands. Where are the LEADERS! What really is the difference between the (d) and (R) parties? With the exception of the Iraq situation, I hear very little difference in their words and see virtually none in their actions.
54 posted on 10/26/2002 12:13:03 PM PDT by null and void
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To: 1rudeboy
Something like, "We will protect your property rights by abolishing your property rights."

Or maybe, "Taxes and property are theft!"

55 posted on 10/26/2002 12:13:23 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Copeland's pretty awful.

Yep! I'm going to split my ticket this time, hold my nose, and vote for Simon...

56 posted on 10/26/2002 12:14:44 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Roscoe
Actually, there's been an income tax in Massachusetts for more than a century and it provides about 60% of the state's revenues.

Irrelevant. The communist manifesto has been around for about the same period of time. You support it. Furthermore the numbers you cite are misleading (and inaccurate if you refrain from rounding- the number is 57% not 60%). The income tax only provides for 9 Billion of the States 22 Billion dollar budget. That's 41%.

Deleting the income tax from the state's fiscal calculations would not roll us back to the 19th century. It would roll us back to 1991. Do the math: Subtract $9 billion of income tax revenues from this year's $22 billion budget and you are left with $13 billion. That was roughly the size of the state's budget (in unadjusted dollars) when Michael Dukakis left office. Many things have been said of Dukakis, but no one ever accused him of cutting government to the bone. At $13 billion, state government was big, powerful, intrusive, and top-heavy. Restored to $13 billion, it would still be far from Spartan.

Boston Herald - 7/13/2001

Congratulations on aligning yourself with big-spending democrats like Michael Dukakis.

57 posted on 10/26/2002 12:15:04 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: null and void
What really is the difference

http://www.simonforgovernor.com/

58 posted on 10/26/2002 12:15:43 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: 1rudeboy
Boy, I can't wait to see their platform.

They don't have a common platform. They oppose each other's political ideas. As usual, Roscoe doesn't present the whole truth.

59 posted on 10/26/2002 12:16:37 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Irrelevant.

Just because you want to run away from the facts?

60 posted on 10/26/2002 12:16:50 PM PDT by Roscoe
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