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McBride lost the chance to make case (McMUMBLE LOST THE DEBATE!- BIG TIME)
Miami Herald ^ | Oct. 23, 2002 | PETER WALLSTEN

Posted on 10/23/2002 9:28:34 AM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom

ORLANDO - Bill McBride bumbled a big opportunity Tuesday night.

With the race for governor coming down to a handful of waffling voters, the most widely viewed televised debate of the campaign offered the Democratic nominee a prime-time stage to make a compelling pitch for ousting Republican Gov. Jeb Bush.

But a flurry of questions from the debate's relentless moderator, NBC's Tim Russert, flummoxed McBride and laid bare an agenda lacking in specifics.

Across the Meet the Press-style table, Bush appeared relaxed and in command. And, most important, the governor offered an artful argument for voters to reelect him on Nov. 5.

He called serving as governor ''the most joyous experience of my life'' and spoke with emotion about his ''passion'' for education, and his ''hopes and dreams'' to increase standards.

BURDEN ON MCBRIDE

But the onus was on McBride, as a challenger who polls show remains largely unknown to nearly one in three Florida voters, to pull off a dramatic performance.

At times his performance was dramatic -- dramatically abysmal.

That was particularly true during an exchange between Russert and McBride on how he would pay for his priorities, which include a proposed amendment to the state Constitution to cap class sizes in public schools.

The exchange led to a perennial losing issue for Democrats -- taxes -- and gave Bush the perfect opening to again tell voters that his Democratic foe would force them to pay more.

McBride, on the other hand, looked slippery.

''It's a question of priorities,'' McBride said when pressed by Russert for specifics on where he would find the money in the state budget to pay for smaller classes.

It took the moderator several tries before McBride conceded that the amendment might cost as much as $15 billion -- more than one-fourth of the entire budget -- and even then McBride fumbled through an answer referring to ''across-the-board'' cuts to services.

Bush all but threw his hands in the air and referred to his administration's increased spending on programs for seniors and the developmentally disabled that would be cut.

''You can see my frustration,'' the governor said to Russert, referring to his criticism of McBride's lack of detail.

McBride, a Tampa lawyer who is a newcomer to politics, did show some bright spots.

He frequently reminded viewers of his record as a Marine -- a record that could help him wrest votes from Bush in the traditionally conservative regions of Central and North Florida rich with veterans.

ON VICTOR CURRY

And, in the most pointed exchange between the two candidates, McBride looked sincere under questioning from Russert and Bush about comments by Miami talk show host Victor Curry referring to Bush's brother, President Bush, as a ''neo-Nazi'' and comparing him to Adolf Hitler.

Bush has called on McBride to condemn Curry, a powerful player in South Florida black politics, while McBride has said he did not hear the remarks. McBride had said on the radio that Curry was one person he would listen to as governor.

McBride compared the spat to a fistfight between 12-year-olds, portraying Bush as a whiner during a ''nyah, nyah'' back-and-forth between the two men.

''I will not say anything to just get elected, and I will not say anything to impinge on anyone's character just to get reelected,'' McBride said, offering his most forceful remarks of the night.

MANY QUESTIONS

But by the debate's end, viewers were left with far more questions about McBride's agenda than answers and little more than a vague understanding of why he is running.

His presentation included far less hand-waving and mumbling than he displayed during the first televised encounter between the two candidates.

But on this night, McBride unleashed no memorable zingers that could turn around a race in which he continues to trail Bush by five percentage points, according to a poll this week.

In contrast, eight years ago Gov. Lawton Chiles began his comeback to victory against Bush with a perfect performance in a debate moderated by Russert. The most important moment was Chiles' legendary ''he-coon'' remark, referring to an old raccoon's wisdom, which confused Bush but charmed voters.

McBride's challenge over the next 13 days is even greater than the popular and better-known Chiles faced in 1994.

Nearly six in 10 undecided voters are registered Republicans, according to the latest poll, suggesting that most of them are likely to wind up in Bush's column without some sort of stunning development.

McBride did himself no favors Tuesday night in wooing those undecideds.

Even on gun control -- typically a winning issue for Democrats -- McBride tried to turn the debate to crime, which is generally a losing topic for his party.

He attacked Bush for failing to reduce the violent crime rate in Florida, which is a legitimate complaint based on state statistics, but again failed to offer specifics on what he would do to fix the problem other than offering more money.

Asked how much, he said: ``I don't know how much. I'd listen to law enforcement authorities.''

LONG SILENCES

When Russert asked McBride if he disagreed with the state teachers union on even one issue -- the union has bankrolled much of the Democrat's efforts and its leading officials hold key campaign posts -- McBride paused and looked a bit dazed.

''I could have gone out and gotten a drink of water, and then come back in,'' joked Mike Murphy, Bush's media consultant, who was sitting in the audience.

Then noting another McBride pause when he was asked how much the class-size amendment would cost, Murphy cracked again: ``We could have had a musical interlude.''

McBride campaign spokesman Alan Stonecipher had said Tuesday's affair was little more than ''good political theater,'' downplaying the event's importance.

But Bush aides have seen such a debate turn the tide before, and they were pleased with what they saw this time.

Said Murphy: ``I heard the air coming out of the McBride campaign.''


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: billmcbride; jebbush

1 posted on 10/23/2002 9:28:34 AM PDT by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Thanks for posting this. Someone already beat you to it, though. Go HERE to see the commentary.


2 posted on 10/23/2002 9:31:28 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
Great news.

If Forrester can get Lautenberg to debate him in New Jersey, I think the reaction shots of Lautenberg nodding off will scare away a few voters.

3 posted on 10/23/2002 9:32:45 AM PDT by dead
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
DATE BUSH V McBRIDE SURVEY MARGIN OF ERROR
Oct.. 14-19---45% v 49% InsiderAdvantage 6%
Oct.. 17-20---49% v 44% Mason Dixon 4%
Oct.. 16-17---49.2% v 40.5% McLaughlin&Asso(R*) 4%
Oct.. 13-14---47% v 47% Garin Hart Yang(D*) 4.1%
Oct.. 09-11---48% v 45% Zogby International 4.5%
Oct.. 08-10---50% v 47% SurveyUSA 4%
Oct.. 02-05---47% v 42% Insider Advantage 4.5%
Sept. 24-26---50% v 44% SPT/Miami Herald 3.5%
Sept. 26-26---49% v 48% SurveyUSA 4.10%
Sept. 22-24---49% v 43% Mason Dixon 4%
Sept. 17-18---49% v 39% Zogby International 4.5%
Sept. 13-15---48% v 43% Hamilton&Beattie 4%
*(+/- 4% for party polls )
4 posted on 10/23/2002 9:32:49 AM PDT by KQQL
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom; floriduh voter
Bush has called on McBride to condemn Curry, a powerful player in South Florida black politics, while McBride has said he did not hear the remarks.

McBride refused to condemn Curry, he could only manage a weak condemnation of "the words".

5 posted on 10/23/2002 9:39:11 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER
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A link for the amusement of all.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/773708/posts

I bring it up because of this bit.

2. Start a raffle: if you guess the total number of times Bill McBride says "I'll just roll up my sleeves," or "I'll just get everybody around the table," you win!

That DID happen! He actually said he'd bring people to a table. LOL!
6 posted on 10/23/2002 9:42:47 AM PDT by Green Knight
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To: Green Knight
Oops. Should've made it a hotlink, myself. Here's the LINK, again.
7 posted on 10/23/2002 9:44:33 AM PDT by Green Knight
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
BUMP
8 posted on 10/23/2002 9:55:57 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Green Knight
"2. Start a raffle: if you guess the total number of times Bill McBride says "I'll just roll up my sleeves," or "I'll just get everybody around the table," you win!"

How 'bout Aitchross Perot's "look under the hood." "That's right, Larry, we need someone to get under the hood and fix things."

Michael

9 posted on 10/23/2002 10:00:12 AM PDT by Wright is right!
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To: StopDemocratsDotCom
" He frequently reminded viewers of his record as a Marine -- a record that could help him wrest votes from Bush in the traditionally conservative regions of Central and North Florida rich with veterans. "

Another illustration of how the Democrats hold the military in contempt. They think that just saying you are a vet,will cause the military to swoon and ignore your position on issues and who you hang with-Clinton/Gore. Anyone who has served, knows that there are jerks and aholes everywhere-even in the military.
10 posted on 10/23/2002 10:37:56 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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