[Desdemona]

I'm Baptist. We believe Mary was just a vessel chosen to carry the blessed child. A womb, but that's all. After his birth, she proceeded with her normal wifely duties. She was born into sin like any other woman. Why shouldn't she service her husband like other wives?

I'm at work and can't get through the firewall. Does somebody have a Catechism handy? Or just a link to the argument we had in the last couple weeks on the Immaculate Conception.

I might not do any good, but....

[Tao Yin]

Not tonight honey, I just gave birth to the messiah.

[NYer]

Does somebody have a Catechism handy? Or just a link to the argument we had in the last couple weeks on the Immaculate Conception.

I must have missed the "discussion". Here is the church's stance on the Immaculate Conception. Is this what you were referring to?

491. "Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, 'full of grace' through God,[ .] was redeemed from the moment of her CONCEPTION. That is what the dogma of the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854:
The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her CONCEPTION, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin.[Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854): DS 2803.]"