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To: texson66
HEHE LOL MAJOR TYPO

I ment James is Jesus' brother.
19 posted on 10/21/2002 9:34:33 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
I was about to point that one out. :-)But how many times do Catholics have to point out that they don't WORSHIP Mary. They VENERATE her; in other words, they honor her, for accepting God's will for her, which was to be the Theotokos, the Mother of God. This is also true of Orthodox Christians.

People often forget two things concerning Scripture. It was written in ANOTHER language (in this case, Greek). The word used by the Gospel writers that has been translate as "brother" meant close relative too. Also, there are MANY ways that someone can be your brother. Literally, one can be a brother if you have the same parents, or if you only have ONE parent in common. Tradition (I know, it's not in the canon of the New Testament that was set by the Eastern and Western Churches several centuries after Christ's life) states that Joseph was probably much older than Mary when she was betrothed to him, and quite possibly, he was married once before. This is what, as someone state before, the Orthodox Churches hold (apparently). This view has certain merit, in my opinion. What Scripture appears to say due to translation doesn't give the entire picture.

Using it to vouch for a certain viewpoint that is in antithesis to another (Mary had other children vs. Mary was a "perpetual virgin") will always show bias to one or the other viewpoint. We can never be ABSOLUTELY sure, because Scripture itself isn't entirely clear on this, so as long as we don't have conclusive proof of what happened, we can't say conclusively. All we can rely on is faith, and who argues the best argument (in their each individual opinion).

33 posted on 10/21/2002 9:45:40 AM PDT by Pyro7480
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ya scared me for a second there man..I thought you were one of those bloodline of the holy grail folks....which is a weird read in itself.
43 posted on 10/21/2002 9:51:00 AM PDT by Delbert
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To: jgrubbs
... therefore Joseph's son by Mary. I think most of us understood what you meant and let he who has never posted a typo cast the first flame.

I don't have a Bible in front of me, but doesn't one of the Gospels specifically state that Joseph knew his wife Mary after the birth of Jesus ? I never got this "perpetual virgin" business, but I suppose it goes hand in hand with the Roman Catholic Church's requirement for a celibate priesthood.

85 posted on 10/21/2002 11:05:00 AM PDT by katana
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To: jgrubbs
>> HEHE LOL MAJOR TYPO

I ment James is Jesus' brother.<<

LOL

96 posted on 10/21/2002 11:44:36 AM PDT by SerpentDove
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