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1 posted on 10/19/2002 1:57:22 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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2 posted on 10/19/2002 1:58:57 AM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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Diogenes can quit searching, W. David Hager is in the house. He won't prescribe contraceptives to unmarried patients ... why would he? That behavior is inimical to the health and well being of his young single patients. Get it elsewhere.

A life view founded on God's love and blessings has no understanding of bulemia or post partum depression. Bulemia isn't a problem in the villages of Niger. Post Partum depression doesn't play in New Guinea. These are the pathologies of a sickly prosperous society. "I eat, then I force it from my body." That's not a good plan if you want to survive. "Here's our baby, our creation, she who we will dedicate our lives to nurture and love and guide and support. I'm not feeling up to see, feed or hold her." Here she is mama. That's a non starter when you are raising this baby in the tribute to God's gift of health and means.

I have my doubts whether this reporter really likes men at all.

7 posted on 10/19/2002 2:50:35 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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Wouldn't it be revealing to really break down the visceral issues that comprise Carolyn Maloney's unyielding promotion of abortion services? Why?

What is the loss they fear if this procedure is rendered history? What power do they derive from a unilateral mandate over the disposition of their pregnancy?

Do they fashion themselves Gods, the arbiters of what is life, what is tissue and what embryo will live and be born, and what embryo will die. Is that the hook? Woman as superior being?

If so, they have the same pathology of the guy in D.C. murdering in gutless ambush. He decides life and death. She decides life and death.

That's a disquieting proposal. Women, even women bearing a fertilized human embryo, are not God. It's not their body, it's a child, her child, growing in her body.

Is a woman's health more important that her baby's? Never. Is my health more important than my daughters if I need to throw myself into death to save her life? Of course not. The child is all important, that's primal and true. To knowingly destroy human offspring is antithetical to our nature, biology and social priority.

9 posted on 10/19/2002 3:11:08 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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Below is an email I received on this from the concerned women for america;

C o n c e r n e d W o m e n f o r A m e r i c a
the nation's largest public policy women's organization

Friday, October 18, 2002

Dear Friend,

'Borking' -- Not Just for Judges Anymore

Dr. David Hager, a nationally recognized expert in gynecology and infectious
diseases, was selected to chair a scientific advisory committee within the
Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Dr. Hager was also the signer, on behalf of the Christian Medical Association,
of Concerned Women for America's (CWA) citizen petition seeking the revocation
of the unlawful approval of the dangerous abortion drug, RU-486.

Hostile elements within the FDA decided to torpedo the Hager nomination, and
within days stories appeared in TIME Magazine (calling him "scantily
credentialed") and the New York Times, attacking him for his Christian faith
and falsely claiming he was unqualified. A gaggle of abortion advocacy groups
then held a news conference denouncing Dr. Hager and organized a grass roots
campaign to demand that he not be appointed to the advisory panel.

Dr. Hager is remarkably well qualified. He is a medical school professor as
well as a practicing physician; he is author of numerous articles and medical
textbooks; he was named "Outstanding Physician in America" by Modern Health
Care in 1994; and has been selected by Good Housekeeping and Ladies' Home
Journal as one of the "Best Doctors for Women."

The attack on Dr. Hager is not only unconscionable as the destruction of a
fine man, but also has larger implications. He is being attacked primarily
because of his Christian faith, and if this smear campaign succeeds, that
would be equivalent to hanging a "No Christians Need Apply" sign on government
appointments. And he is under consideration for a part-time, non-salaried
position -- a seeming triviality -- but the furor of the attacks on him show
that it is a position of some significance.

Visit our Web site (
http://congress.cwfa.org/cwfa/issues/alert/?alertid=713906 ) to send a
message in support of Doctor Hager to Dr. Lester Crawford, Deputy
Commissioner, FDA and to carbon copy Dr. Janet Woodcock, Director, Center for
Drug Evaluation and Research. You may also use the email addresses listed
below to send your own polite email to Dr. Crawford. Please be sure to copy
Dr. Woodcock.

Dr. Lester Crawford
lcrawford@oc.fda.gov

Dr. Janet Woodcock, Center for Drug Evaluation and Review
woodcockj@cder.fda.gov
11 posted on 10/19/2002 3:54:15 AM PDT by Red Jones
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This fellow Hagar is very well qualified, not just a doctor, but a professor at a medical university, has won awards also. His great crime is that he's publicly professed his christian faith and it is known that he's not politically correct on RU486 issue. RU-486 is a dangerous drug. It has killed several women in france, it has killed one in america, it has been banned in China by the communists because it is just not a good drug. The FDA approved this drug by basically breaking their own procedures and the directions from congress. If they get honest people like Hagar into the FDA, then the normal procedures will be followed and RU486 won't be available because it's dangerous. That's why they're Borking Dr. Hagar.

When clinton was pres the FDA classified RU486 as a drug that would save the lives of terminally ill, they did this because it is a dangerous drug and that is the only way they could get it legal and still follow the rules. You see if they admitted the truth, that it does not really save lives - which it does not, then the RU486 would've had to go through a testing process which would've kept it illegal. So, they lied to get around the law. They say it saves peoples lives who otherwise would die even though it is merely a drug that kills the fetus inside a woman. Congress allows dangerous drugs to be approved if they also help some patients who are otherwise going to die to live.

The liberals have an organized campaign against this fellow, it's not just NOW and the witch-senator boxer, they've got a huge campaign including radio ads against him. All because he's a christian with a different point of view from them, they say he can't be allowed to serve onthe committee that bush wants him on. This is the lengths they go just to keep this guy from chairing a committee that bush wants him on. The liberals will do anything to keep RU486.
12 posted on 10/19/2002 4:09:49 AM PDT by Red Jones
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what these people are really saying is that christian views are not allowed.
13 posted on 10/19/2002 4:19:27 AM PDT by Red Jones
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Why not? They're already mixing politics and medicine.
15 posted on 10/19/2002 7:48:04 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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"Don't mix religion with medicine at the FDA."

Bush Administration to NOW "don't mix stupidity with logic."

21 posted on 10/19/2002 8:04:48 AM PDT by harpo11
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Prayers for PMS? Beatitudes for bulimia?

Well? Has that been tried? If so, did it work?

22 posted on 10/19/2002 8:09:47 AM PDT by William Terrell
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