There's a lesson here for those in denial on Iraq's motives and especially Iraq's nuke program. We can't wish away or inspect away WOMD from bad guys.
It appears we got some intelligence from Pakistan - perhaps we have similar info from them on Iraq.
1 posted on
10/19/2002 1:44:46 AM PDT by
The Raven
To: The Raven
For you fans of the New York Times' foreign policy - here's Andrew Sullivan's Von Hoffman Award:
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"Diplomacy with North Korea has scored a resounding triumph. Monday's draft agreement freezing and then dismantling North Korea's nuclear program should bring to an end two years of international anxiety and put to rest widespread fears that an unpredictable nation might provoke nuclear disaster.
The U.S. negotiator Robert Gallucci and his North Korean interlocutors have drawn up a detailed road map of reciprocal steps that both sides accepted despite deep mutual suspicion. In so doing they have defied impatient hawks and other skeptics who accused the Clinton Administration of gullibility and urged swifter, stronger action. The North has agreed first to freeze its nuclear program in return for U.S. diplomatic recognition and oil from Japan and other countries to meet its energy needs. Pyongyang will then begin to roll back that program as an American-led consortium replaces the North's nuclear reactors with two new ones that are much less able to be used for bomb-making. At that time, the North will also allow special inspections of its nuclear waste sites, which could help determine how much plutonium it had extracted from spent fuel in the past." - The New York Times, wrong yet again, October 19, 1994.
(The Von Hoffman Award is named after famed commentator Nick von Hoffman who boldly predicted the collapse of the Afghan campaign the week Kabul fell. It's for truly bad judgment or prediction among the punditocracy.)
2 posted on
10/19/2002 2:26:35 AM PDT by
The Raven
To: The Raven
Actually I think North Korea has a valid reason for their nuclear weapons program.
They want to make sure that Roger Clinton will never assault their ears again.
(end sarcasm)
3 posted on
10/19/2002 2:36:05 AM PDT by
VOA
To: The Raven
At what point does willful persistence in demonstrated folly become treason?
To: The Raven
The article said . .
"If Mr. Bush's inclusion of the North in his "axis of evil" means anything, Kim Jong Il and his government have to learn that their dangerous behavior won't be rewarded."
In my opinion, Bush's "Axis of Evil" rhetoric means absolutely nothing. He OK'd $95 Million to North Korea for their Nuclear Power program under the 1994 Geneva Agreed Framework which was (I believe) started by the Clinton Administration. He stated it was "vital national security interests of the United States". Check out the following link. . . . it looks like certain anti-proliferation requirements were waived too.
Presidential Determination No. 2002-12, April 1, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020402-13.html
An earlier post about the 95 million Big Ones to Pyongyang http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/662232/posts
. . . and to think I was about to retire my Tinfoil hat when Bush took office! The more things change . . .
To: The Raven
I can't disagree with the WSJ position. Appeasement never works.
To: The Raven
Nuclear blackmail worked for them before.
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