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U.S. Says Pakistan Gave Technology to North Korea By
NewYork Times ^ | 10.18.2002 | DAVID E. SANGER and JAMES DAO

Posted on 10/17/2002 9:26:04 PM PDT by swarthyguy

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But Clinton administration officials say they could not figure out how Pakistan, virtually broke at the time, could afford the purchases.

Saudi Arabia, of course, who else.

1 posted on 10/17/2002 9:26:04 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
THE NYT's ALSO SAID THIS IN 1994 CLICK
2 posted on 10/17/2002 9:32:58 PM PDT by newsperson999
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To: swarthyguy
As a state, NK is not a threat to launch any nuclear weapons. They would simply no longer exist.

Economically, however, they are desperate. Several non state sponsored groups would pay good coin to get their hands on some of NK's weapons. Unfortunately, we will have to bribe them with more so that does not happen.

3 posted on 10/17/2002 9:33:33 PM PDT by Archie Bunker on steroids
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To: swarthyguy; Fred Mertz
Very interesting.

I didn't think that the Chinese would help NK, just not in this regard. Why would it want NK to have Atomic Bombs?

But the desire to get enriched uranium, even though they have plutonium, might indicate they don't have the technology to set off plutonium.

It's "received wisdom" they have plutonium...but never explained where they got it from.

4 posted on 10/17/2002 9:33:58 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Well hopefully Russia and China would come to the reasonable conclusion that it's not in their interest to have NK nukes. Perhaps pressure can be brought to bear.
5 posted on 10/17/2002 9:35:07 PM PDT by Shermy
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If North Korea got A-bombs from Pakistan for short to medium range missle technology, what did Al Queda get from Pakistan to help fight India in Kashmir ?
6 posted on 10/17/2002 9:35:54 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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[But Clinton administration officials say they could not figure out how Pakistan, virtually broke at the time, could afford the purchases.]

Saudi Arabia, of course, who else.

Roger that.

7 posted on 10/17/2002 9:53:37 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: justa-hairyape
Shelter?

Now one more piece of information: Yesterday in New York City Arnaud de Borchgrave, longtime war correspondent and editor of UPI and the Washington Times, told a fascinating story. A Pakistani warlord whom Arnaud has known since 1964 knows where Osama is. After the siege of Tora Bora last December, Osama and his chief lieutenants escaped on horseback into Pakistan, where they were picked up in SUVs and driven into Peshawar, a city of 3.5 million passionate fundamentalist Muslims who adore Osama.

Since then, bin Laden has moved to Karachi, a city of 15 million.

Arnaud's friend, the warlord, knows all this – and where to find Osama in Karachi. In August in meetings in Washington, Arnaud personally told CIA Director George Tenet and Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz about this. He saw both men write down the warlord's name.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/771098/posts

And to really spoil your Christmas, check this out. From the Economist, no less, no chicken little, them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/771057/posts

8 posted on 10/17/2002 10:01:03 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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I love the code words-97,98,99, late 90's-not once does the New York Times say, Clinton Administration!!!
9 posted on 10/17/2002 10:06:11 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
They wouldn't, would they. A complete disaster in terms of national security could be used instead, a little long but far more descriptive.
10 posted on 10/17/2002 10:08:25 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
It definitly looks like the US Military has a Restraining Order put on it with respect to producing a dead Osama Bin Laden body. Much like the Restraining Order placed on it with regards to Saddam Hussien in the Gulf War. Heck they could produce a fake Osama Bin Laden body for the TV cameras ! But they have not. Very telling. Either they are worried about Muslim backlash worldwide or the Saudi Royals have placed a 'dont touch' order on their estranged Prince. I guess this Royal Blood thingy runs pretty deep ?

With regards to the Pakistani's, the country of India is poised and prepared to deal with the situation. They just need to address the Carter-Nobel types amongst themselves.

11 posted on 10/17/2002 10:16:43 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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>>estranged Prince. I guess this Royal Blood thingy runs pretty deep ?

Don't think he was ever 'estranged'. Nice cover story. After all, Prince Turki, exchief of Saudi Intel learnt Plausible Deniablitity from the masters in London and Langley.
12 posted on 10/17/2002 10:19:09 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Well, even if the NYT doesn't mention it, many will make the connection. Clinton's legacy is really coming home to roost. Thanks for nothing, bill.
13 posted on 10/17/2002 10:21:30 PM PDT by Wphile
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To: swarthyguy; Nogbad; keri; Heartlander2; okie01; Shermy; aristeides; Alamo-Girl
American intelligence officials have concluded that Pakistan, a vital ally since last year's terrorist attacks, was a major supplier of critical equipment for North Korea's newly revealed clandestine nuclear weapons program, current and former senior American officials said today.

The equipment, which may include gas centrifuges used to create weapons-grade uranium, appears to have been part of a barter deal beginning in the late 1990's in which North Korea supplied Pakistan with missiles it could use to counter India's nuclear arsenal, the officials said.

This is more evidence that Pres. Bush was correct in saying that North Korea plays a significant role in the axis against us.

And Pakistan's true colors are being revealed.

The key unanswered question here is what China's role might be, if any. It's hard to believe that China isn't at least privy to everything North Korea is doing, and it isn't unreasonable to think that North Korea continues to be a covert, behind-the-scenes proxy state for China.

14 posted on 10/17/2002 10:55:23 PM PDT by Mitchell
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I heard tonight that North Korea got assistance
for its nuclear weapons program both from China and Russia .

But that's not too surprising since they also got assistance from the USA.

15 posted on 10/17/2002 10:57:45 PM PDT by Nogbad
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But that's not too surprising since they also got assistance from the USA.

Perhaps because of Chinese campaign donations?

16 posted on 10/17/2002 10:59:42 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Wphile
The question has long been: Will we survive the wretched irresponsibility of the Clinton Administration?
17 posted on 10/18/2002 4:23:22 AM PDT by dmeara
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Hard-liners have argued that it should be scrapped.

So it is now un PC to cut off aid to NK after they have violated the agreement? Twisted logic from da toilet paper of record.

18 posted on 10/18/2002 5:17:46 AM PDT by STD
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To: swarthyguy
There are enough people here and more importantly in the State Department and Congress just itching to kiss Paki ass that this won't even make a dent.
19 posted on 10/18/2002 6:49:03 AM PDT by Aaron_A
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DOn't forget the CIA, either. Right - we're totally committed to Pak and Mush. But with the jihadis close to power in Pakistan, things should get interesting. Because US policy will now need a crisis to change its course.
20 posted on 10/18/2002 7:06:42 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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