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Hotmail now limits spam filters for free users
The Inquirer ^ | October 16, 2002 | Paul Hales

Posted on 10/16/2002 8:07:35 PM PDT by JameRetief

Daily Hotmail at it again

By Paul Hales: Wednesday 16 October 2002, 18:25

HOTMAIL IS UP TO ITS DIRTY TRICKS AGAIN. Users weighed down under the virtual weight of incoming spam take the wise step of filtering out and burning those spams which invariably emanate from the increasingly-sophisticated spammers of the world.

Filtering out the incoming mails with the word 'debt' in the subject line works a treat for example, dumping a fair proportion of the spams wending their merry way into the size-limited inboxes of Hotmail users. Users determined, as we know, to keep using the service for free, as Microsoft promises they can

Adding filters for the words 'penis', 'enhance', 'babes', 'free sex', and 'viagra' can further cut down your spam intake to a more manageable level.

The INQUIRER received a mail from one wise user who says he had "almost 40" filters set up to weed out the junk from the legitimate. "This has been working GREAT at blocking HUGE amounts of spam," wrote Rob, "since nobody that actually _writes_ me ever uses those words in the subject."

Rob continues: "Anyways, today I went to my filter list to add a couple more words to the list, and I notice the GUI has changed a little bit... I went to "Add" a new filter, and I get a popup message-box, informing me that now, you gotta be a PAID MEMBER to set up more than 10 filters!"

"Now they're not even letting us fight spam OURSELVES without paying them," writes Rob. "That's a bummer, man..."

Now, we had ourselves previously set up a few filters that were working pretty effectively on out own Hotmail account, limiting the spam to around 20 messages per day (sheesh!). But to check out Rob’s claim we added a few more. And sure enough, he’s right. At 10 filters, up pops the message: "You have reached your filter limit. You must delete an existing one, or sign up for MSN Extra Storage to increase your filter limit."

We toyed with the idea of calling the UK’s handsome Mr Hotmail to offer him the opportunity of explaining the development, but lately he doesn’t return our calls. He has previously confessed, however, to be involved in "product development, enabling an increase in profitability."

Naturally, gradually tweaking the Hotmail service so that is becomes virtually unusable to free users is one way of (cough!) leveraging an increase in profitability.

Unfair, Mr Whiteway? Give us a call then, you have the number.

Click here for previous issues of your occasionally Daily Hotmail. µ



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: diminishingbenefits; filters; freeemail; hotmail; microsoft; spam
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1 posted on 10/16/2002 8:07:35 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; rdb3
Hotmail antics ping.
2 posted on 10/16/2002 8:08:16 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Well, it's annoying, all right. On the other hand, no one has a God-given, inalienable right to free Hotmail. Almost all the other free services and storage sites have gone belly-up, for obvious reasons.
3 posted on 10/16/2002 8:11:24 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: JameRetief
Spamming has increased geometrically on Hotmail.com. The spammers are also getting better at bypassing the filters that would send them to the "junk mail" folder. I often get over 50 spam emails per day.
4 posted on 10/16/2002 8:11:24 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: JameRetief
How does one set up a filter to get rid of emails with certain words in the subject line?
5 posted on 10/16/2002 8:15:28 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: Cicero
On the other hand, no one has a God-given, inalienable right to free Hotmail.

I've been giving some thought to paying. I think it's a cruddy service, except when I'm traveling. My kids were able to use it in Europe at cyber cafes. It's almost certainly worth 10 bucks a year.

On the other hand, I don't get anything like this amount of spam on my pop3 account. how does everyone get your hotmail account?

6 posted on 10/16/2002 8:17:10 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Cicero
On the other hand, no one has a God-given, inalienable right to free Hotmail.

Correct. But Microsoft, when they took over Hotmail, said that the free email service would remain free. The Machiavellian methods of incremental deconstruction of a service in order to weasel their way out of a commitment is just morally bankrupt. If they don't want to keep the free service they should just cancel it and be done with the mess.

7 posted on 10/16/2002 8:19:49 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
How does one set up a filter to get rid of emails with certain words in the subject line?

Check out the guide on About.com here: Apply Filters to the Hotmail Inbox Manually

8 posted on 10/16/2002 8:23:14 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: Cicero
Yep, I use Hotmail (it's free) and have been getting an increased amount of spam. But it's free. I can handle a little spam- and it's nothing nasty, at least as far as the message titles go. Now, if I were paying, I would be upset- but I aint paying, so I have no real right to complain.
9 posted on 10/16/2002 8:24:33 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: Cicero
I have had very good success with my email server: myrealbox.com

this server is primarily an equipment, software and network testing service that provides email accounts for them to real-time "beta" test systems. It offers spam and virus filtering (automatically- I got this message the other day:

User ????@gte.net tried to send you a message
containing the W32/Klez.h@MM virus.

The infected message has been returned to the sender with a notice
that it was infected.

the only drawback I have found is that there are occasional "down" times as they work out bugs on tested systems, but it amounts to only a slight delay in access.

my previous server got so spam loaded that I had to finally change servers and haven't regretted it yet.

10 posted on 10/16/2002 8:26:03 PM PDT by Optimist
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To: JameRetief
weasel their way out of a commitment is just morally bankrupt. You have a bit of a misunderstanding: announcements such as the one you mention, are not contracts; these are annnouncements of intentions, in this case to keep the service free in the near future.

As for moral bankruptcy, I suggest you start and maintain a free service yourself, ensure that all those working on it hasve paychecks and benefits, and then criticize.

11 posted on 10/16/2002 8:35:16 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Cleburne
I agree I don't have a right to complain about a free service.I have a hotmail account for my organization that i have had for some time,so it would be difficult to change over.But the volume of spam on there is quite annoying and deleting it takes a considerable amount of time every week.
12 posted on 10/16/2002 8:36:43 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: JameRetief
I am very afraid to post this question as it may trigger a flood of spam on me but...I became a cox cable internet user in April and to date I have not received one spam. I don't email much and I'm using Eudora and OE.Have you ever heard of this ?
13 posted on 10/16/2002 8:38:38 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: TopQuark
You have a bit of a misunderstanding: announcements such as the one you mention, are not contracts; these are annnouncements of intentions

I never said that they made this a legal contract. They made a public relations commitment to keep it free. Now they are doing everything they can to eliminate the service without saying so.

As for moral bankruptcy, I suggest you start and maintain a free service yourself, ensure that all those working on it hasve paychecks and benefits, and then criticize.

I never chose to make a commitment to do so, Microsoft did. If you tell someone you are going to do something and then try every trick in the book to divest yourself of the moral obligation, yes that is morally bankrupt. It would have been more ethical to have simply said "financial considerations make it untenable to maintain the free service" and cancelled the service. Instead, Microsoft continues to secretly downgrade the service.

14 posted on 10/16/2002 8:47:32 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: tubebender
As long as you only give out your email address to those you trust, you will be relatively safe from spam. Hotmail account email addresses, on the other hand, can be given to third party email spammers at Microsoft's discretion unless you specifically uncheck the "option" in your settings.
15 posted on 10/16/2002 8:51:28 PM PDT by JameRetief
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To: JameRetief
Here's some tips to avoid spam:

1. When you start getting spam, inform your friends of a new e-mail address and then rotate e-mail addresses. If you don't check it, it goes away in 90 days.
2. Get multiple e-mail addresses and only give out the one you don't care about to those sites or people who require you to provide an e-mail address. Check it as often as needed to keep it alive.
3. Guard your e-mail address. Quit giving it out unless required. Ask the person, if it's required. Chances are not, although some websites do.
4. Ask friends to send items to you as a blind copy (bcc). Then others on the list won't have your e-mail.
5. Use the block feature. I believe it allows you to block up to 250 domain names. A lot of these spammers just rotate names to bypass blocks, but they are stuck on a single domain name.
16 posted on 10/16/2002 8:51:53 PM PDT by Rockitz
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To: JameRetief
wow!
Thanks!
17 posted on 10/16/2002 8:52:19 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: JameRetief
I use a program called MailWasher. It's available at http://www.mailwasher.net

As of 10/14, the released upgrade handles hotmail. It's free to use, the author asks for a $20 donation if you like it. After logging on, start up MailWasher, it previews the spam, compares it to your filters and to the various databases of identifiable Spam.

With a click of the mouse, it will delete all identified Spam and bounce the mail back to the sender...hopefully they will get the message (as will their host server) that you don't exist in their eyes.

Pass it on if it works for you! AJ

18 posted on 10/16/2002 8:52:21 PM PDT by AJ504
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To: JameRetief
Speaking of e-mail providers, I've been having porblems with my yahoo account. Everytime I sign on it says that Im using 79% of my email storage capacity, and that if I dont want the account deleted then I would need a to upgrade my account for 10bucks a year. So I went in and deleted about 300 old messages and guess what, no change, it still says that im approaching my storage limit...even though I have about 50 messages in my box.
19 posted on 10/16/2002 8:55:02 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans
The only thing I know about that is Yahoo's link about it: Why am I still getting the quota warning after deleting mail?.

The full text of the link:


Why am I still getting the quota warning after deleting mail?

Please keep in mind:

1. Messages in your Sent, Draft, and Trash folders all count toward your storage quota, as do messages in any other personal folders you may have created. To see where you have messages, click on "Folders." In every folder that contains messages, view the folder's contents and check the size of each message. Adding these up will most likely show you why you're still over (or near) your quota.

2. It isn't the number of messages you have, but the size of those messages that count. A few very large messages (or possibly even one) can fill an entire account. Check for large messages in your account, especially messages with attachments.

Hint: Check your Sent folder for messages with attachments. Each time you send an attachment and save the message to your Sent folder, the attachment is stored in your account. These attachments can add up fast.



20 posted on 10/16/2002 9:00:59 PM PDT by JameRetief
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