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What do we do in Iraq?
The Chicago Sun Times ^ | October 14, 2002 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/16/2002 7:17:42 AM PDT by OldCorps

Now what do we do in Iraq?

October 14, 2002

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Now that Congress has droned through a week of largely desultory debate to authorize the use of force against Iraq, how will it be exercised? That is properly a military secret, unknown even to members of Congress. More questionable, it is also unknown to senior military officers.

If there is a precise plan for action to remove Saddam Hussein from power, general officers at the Pentagon tell members of Congress that they are in the dark. This may be another example of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld working with a small circle of both official and unofficial advisers, fostering concern among career officers that plans are not being sufficiently reviewed by military experts.

Hawkish civilians, in and out of the government, have been suggesting that Saddam's elite Republican Guard will throw up its arms in surrender. No serious person believes that. The question is whether an uprising of the persecuted Shia majority will be enough to overthrow the Baghdad regime without heavy application of U.S. force. If there is no effective revolt, the generals and their friends on Capitol Hill worry that the unknown plans may not call for sufficient U.S. forces.

The concern goes to the executive style of Rumsfeld, who recalls the abrasive qualities demonstrated by war secretaries in the mold of Edwin Stanton during the Civil War. To his credit, Rumsfeld has attempted to toughen up the officer corps, softened by standards of political correctness during the eight Clinton years. However, the officers who thought that happy days were here again on the day that George W. Bush became president have been disappointed.

Their disappointment stems from Rumsfeld's inclination, born of a turbulent lifetime in governmental and corporate affairs, to make decisions within a restricted circle. That includes war planning. According to Pentagon sources, the secretary does not consult the uniformed service chiefs. Participating in the immediate planning are Gen. Tommy Franks, commander in chief of the Central Command, and a few officers from the Pentagon's Joint Staff.

What most bothers the generals, however, is Rumsfeld's preference for outside advice. For example, sources say a frequent consultant with the secretary is former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, an amateur military expert and member of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board. There is no distribution through the Pentagon of such advice.

Generally, this advice probably follows the longtime line by Richard Perle, the Policy Board's chairman, that indigenous Shia forces will do most of the fighting to dislodge Saddam. That leads to the internal debate over whether 250,000 U.S. troops are needed for combat in Iraq or, instead, a much smaller number will do.

The professional military thinks that Saddam's Republican Guard will fight, and that substantial U.S. forces will be needed. Contrary to a widespread popular impression, these elite troops did not surrender at the first sign of American troops in 1991. Saddam, displaying his instinct for survival, had brought his Guard back to Baghdad and placed untrained Shia recruits on the front line in the desert.

One Republican Guard unit, the Hammurabi tank division, was trying to get to Baghdad when it was mowed down by the U.S. 24th Division at the Rumaila oil field in the Gulf War's famous ''turkey shoot.'' Saddam decided not to risk his elite units in a hopeless military situation when he figured, correctly, that his regime could survive. His options figure to be different this time.

Officers at the Pentagon cut off from the secretary of defense worry about the Republican Guard conducting a last-ditch defense of Baghdad, using civilians as shields. They ask: What are U.S. plans for conducting this kind of warfare, which would inflict a high casualty rate on both sides?

I asked a senior, well-informed Republican member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who is a strong supporter of President Bush, whether the U.S. military was preparing for war with Iraq with sufficient force to cover all possibilities. ''They better have,'' he replied. When I rephrased the question, he gave exactly the same answer. He does not know, and neither do some gentlemen with four stars on their shoulders.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defensedepartment; iraq; militaryforce
Some thoughts and comments from a retired army officer:

1. Although he is a vast improvement over his predecessor, SecDef Rumsfeld worries me because he gives the impression that he is the only one running the show and that he will not listen to others. Take a look at his press conferences: cute remarks and inside the beltway jokes with the press corps do not inspire a lot of confidence in him from those who are thousands of miles away risking their lives. Notice how he expects his subordinates to tow the party line: look at the USMC 4 star (vice chairman, JCS) and his propaganda minister-(the, ahem, tall assertive woman-don't know her name) all they do is restate the latest revealed wisdom from Rumsfeld. Not any original thought.

2. Personalities aside, it causes great concern that well connected and serious journalists like Mr. Novak are writing that Secretary Rumsfeld is ignoring the advice of the Army chief of Staff. General Shinseki may have made a political error concerning the beret debacle, but he certainly knows how to fight. He is highly regarded within the Army for his operational and strategic expertise.

3. Some of you might recall that the 10th Mountain Division was involved in a battle high in the mountains of Afghanistan without artillery support. Any officer above the rank of lieutenant knows that you don't go into battle unless you have artillery support, especially when the time and place of the battle are of your choosing. Yes there was a lot of finger pointing and excuses, but the fact remains that very unsound professional decisions were made in this instance. How far this goes up the chain of command I don't know. However, it shows that mistakes are made that result in needless casulties.

I urge Secretary Rumsfeld to listen to the advice of his senior Army officers in planing the campaign in Iraq. When all is said and done, it will be Army ground forces that will have to fight the Republican Guard, go in and secure Bagdad and provide security for the new regime, etc. Undertaking such an operation requires army expertise, not civilian book learing or political insight. The absence of such expertise can only lead to unfortunate circumstances for our soldiers.

1 posted on 10/16/2002 7:17:42 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
Your points are well-taken, but I suspect there is far more at work here than meets the eye.

Novak is known for working both sides of the aisles and, as you surely know, the reputations of various senior officers within the service community are often mixed. What we may be seeing is Rumsfeld avoiding working through senior officers he believes (based on advice, but from whom??? Powell??) are too tainted with the Clinton administration -- and we both know that after 8 years of Clinton, there are a whole lot of 0-6s, 0-7s and 0-8s who have ascended to their lofty positions by hewing to the Clinton/Cohen party line, not to mention that almost none of the current 0-9s and 0-10s wore stars before the Clinton wrecking crew went to work. How many of the current commanders have seen combat? In the Gulf? Probably none of them have seen any sustained combat above the company level, and that would have been in the later stages of Vietnam. All but one of my Brother Rats is out by now.

I agree that it is still a matter of concern, and I would be a lot more comfortable if someone like Schwartzkopf were in an active command role or overseeing the planning.

2 posted on 10/16/2002 7:35:48 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: OldCorps
PS As an old redleg, I was quite surprised the 10th Mountain went in without artillery. Where the h*() were the M-198 towed 155mm gun/howitzers we developed in the late '70s. We should have used them with CLGP to augment the air-to-mud GBUs for cave entrances, etc. and for vehicular traffic spotted by RPVs in areas where air was impractical. Sounds like a Cluster-F)(& to me.
3 posted on 10/16/2002 7:40:29 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: OldCorps
Nuke um and walk away.
4 posted on 10/16/2002 7:48:57 AM PDT by boris
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To: OldCorps
This Rumsfeld criticism probably comes from the same type of Regular Army types, who criticized our guys guarding Hamid Karzai for growing beards and wearing native clothes. He ordered all Special Ops to shave. Get a clue. I trust Rumsfeld, even Newt Gingrich on this new battle against Iraq, than I would most career military guys, who have been punching their tickets under Clinton for 8 years. Remember, they brought the military the COO Campaign (Care about others), a total PC circle jerk.
5 posted on 10/16/2002 8:14:56 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: OldCorps
All valid thoughts. Another question I might add to the equation is once in Iraq what are our plans for getting out again? Unless that is outlined before hand this can rapidly disintegrate into an endless occupation quagmire, something we don't have the troop strength to support.
6 posted on 10/16/2002 8:20:43 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: CatoRenasci
Well I hope you are right. I just don't see him around any army guys and that worries me. The air force generals are going to tell him that air power alone can win (they have been saying this since Billy Mitchell). You know...look at us!! we have the latest and greatest bomb...it is so accurate that now we can target the eyeball of a gnat from 3000 miles away... The problem is when political leaders listen to these air force dreams we always end up with army grunts being killed unnecessarily.

Would love to see the forced retirement of all the political Clinton loving generals. Will never happen of course. Funny how General Wesley Clark still tries to get his face in front of the cameras. What a disgrace!

M198s. Great weapon. very accurate, long range.
7 posted on 10/16/2002 8:23:59 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Jabba the Nutt
My problem is with this guy Richard Perle. He is not an elected or even appointed individual! Yet behind the scene, he is exercising too much influence over the US policies.
8 posted on 10/16/2002 8:27:22 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Hey Jabba, we're on the same side man. I was a regular Army type.

All the SF guys I ever knew were absolutely great soldiers. would fight anywhere with them. had a great sense of humor and didn't get caught up in the ego stuff. Just one caveat: SF guys are the best for specific, detailed missions. When it comes to prosecuting a major campaign however, best to go with the guys who have been in the divisions for a while.

about the beards for Karzai's guards. sounds like a turf war.
9 posted on 10/16/2002 8:33:32 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Non-Sequitur
You have hit the nail on the head. How many active divisions do we have now--10? Most of which have a brigade from the NG. Now, subtract the 2nd Inf Div (Korea) and the 82nd (national reserve), that leaves us with 8 divisions to prosecute this major campaign.

The margin for error is pretty thin.
10 posted on 10/16/2002 8:40:07 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
I forgot to subtract one division for Afghanistan and one division for Yugoslavia (thanks Madeline Albright for getting us needlessly into this quagmire). Thus you are left with roughly 6 divisions for this campaign.

The margin of error gets thinner.
11 posted on 10/16/2002 8:43:37 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
And pretty soon one division for the Philippines and one division for Indonesia and one division for Columbia and so forth and so on. Clinton was a great one for getting us into commitments in the first place without a thought to how thin the troops were streached or how we would get out. Bush is continuting the trend.
12 posted on 10/16/2002 9:12:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: OldCorps
The lack of green-suiters is troubling, and GWB was a reserve powderblue suiter himself. Any marines in the loop? At least they know which end of a rifle to point towards the enemy.

The confidence of the zoomies has always been fun to watch, but I've never seen them win a war yet (Bosnia notwithstanding).

13 posted on 10/16/2002 9:58:22 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: CatoRenasci
Cato,

I watched Fox news last night. Brit Hume interviewed a USAF retired general about the scuttlebutt that SecDef Rumsfeld is not popular with the senior officers. What a joke. This USAF guy is impartial? Its like interviewing the fox about how well the hens are doing in the hen house. We all know that bureaucatic infighting exists in the Pentagon, but these are very serious stakes in this battle. No one seems to want to listen to army leaders, who absolutely will have to do the heavy lifting in an Iraqi campaign.

The reality is that the Army is not large enough to undertake a sustained campaign and establish a post invasion presence in Iraq. Thus, our national military leaders appear to be setting us up for an abysmal failure should we go to war.

Now maybe I am missing something here, ...maybe we are just talking tough and have no intention to get involved in a war with Iraq. If that is the case, that's fine and I am wrong. But it is very dangerous for these USAF generals to go around promising all who will listen that we as a nation can handle Iraq militarily when no one is talking to the Army about how it is to be done. You can't have USAF generals talking about a subject (destroying Iraq's army and toppling Saddam Hussein's regime militarily) which only the army has the expertise to evaluate.
14 posted on 10/17/2002 6:23:57 AM PDT by OldCorps
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To: OldCorps
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I missed Fox last night. You are absolutely right that we don't have the force-in-being for a long term campaign/post-invasion presence, at least on current models.

The more interesting question, which I have not seen anywhere addressed, is what sort of model for post-invasion presence is really appropriate. What I suspect (without any special knowledge) is that people are looking much harder at colonial-era models than anyone is willing to admit publically. Consider that the disparities in capablity between western (esp. US) and non-western forces is now greater than at any time in the past, even the 19th century, when relatively small European forces conquered and held vast areas in Africa and Asia. Perhaps the putative pashas of the pentagon think a couple of regiments of lancers -- oops, I mean a couple of armored cavalry brigades -- combined with the threat of massive air power would suffice. They may even be right that after a thorough thrashing of Saddam's conventional forces and his various special and republican guard forces, and the ensuing necessary bloodbath of Baath supporters, we won't need a huge garrison. But, the risk if they're wrong given our current force structure makes me uncomfortable.

Especially, in view of the information out of Korea last night about the North Koreans having nukes.

15 posted on 10/17/2002 7:00:59 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: OldCorps
But it is very dangerous for these USAF generals to go around promising all who will listen that we as a nation can handle Iraq militarily when no one is talking to the Army about how it is to be done. You can't have USAF generals talking about a subject (destroying Iraq's army and toppling Saddam Hussein's regime militarily) which only the army has the expertise to evaluate.

On reflection, the analogy that comes to mind is Goering's persuading Hitler in 1940 that the Luftwaffe alone could destroy the British pocket at Dunkirk and prevent its evacuation to Britian by sea. Ominous.

16 posted on 10/17/2002 7:02:55 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Jabba the Nutt
There are a lot of military guys pissed at Rumsfeld. He cut major toys and games (Crusader; the DB-21 to DBX; the SSBN to the SSGN; the B-1 modernization; the Navy Area Wide cancellation; the SBIRS restructuring) and is serious about reforming the force structure. Many Clinton era gereral officers are rightfully fearing for their jobs. IMO, all of this is a good thing.
17 posted on 10/17/2002 7:31:44 AM PDT by antidisestablishment
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