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To: Iron Eagle
http://www.budget.net/~primrose/Jailed.htm


Big Ray arrested in JoCo Courthouse  !
  by Peter Sparacino ©2002 - editor/publisher of Behind the Scenes in JoCo

   I was present at Raymond Karczewski's arraignment 9/12/02.  Big Ray had the Bailiff give his legal papers [ see  ] to Judge Allan H. Coon, who until then had had an uneventful, routine session arraigning various petty offenses.  Under Karczewski's legal theory Judge Coon did not have lawful jurisdiction to hear his matter and was unlawfully using Karczewski's private property, his copyrighted name.

    Judge Coon saved Ray for last.  In response to receiving Ray's papers the Judge had the Bailiff put a single sheet of paper on the rail in front of Ray. Ray refused to acknowledge or to touch it.  It was the charges leveled against him by the state; a felony and two misdemeanors. The Judge simply said if you are not the right person to be arraigned before me this date then I shall issue a bench warrant for whoever is to be here, and he shall be arrested for failure to appear.  Ray didn't budge.  The Judge declared that the court was in recess, then left the room.

    John Taft [ see ], Investigative Reporter for THE OREGON OBSERVER [ see ], was seated next to me. Paul Walter, publisher of NewsWithViews  was seated on my other side. Ray's wife Anita was present along with two other witnesses unknown to me.  We sat for awhile then all decided to go to the other end of the courthouse where the water fountain is located.  It was only a few minutes until two deputy sheriffs (Justema and Malin) approached and announced that they had a warrant to arrest Ray.  He asked what was the name on the warrant. They refused to answer and instead began putting handcuffs on him.  He repeatedly demanded to know what name was on the warrant. As Ray is a large man the handcuffs were not easily applied.  It was clear that both deputies were not going to answer Ray's demands.  Ray told his wife to take his wallet, but one deputy intervened and said whatever is on his person stays on his person. And with that he was whisked away to jail where bail had been set at $10,000.00.

    In these times of uncertainty where 9-11 has kindled draconian measures, such as curtailing our protections numbered in our Bill of Rights,  men of principle, like Ray Karczewski, test the health of our Constitutional protections. Either we are a nation of law, or not.  Local, legal  heel fly, Jim Rossi would say, not Rossi says  Oregon has no law, only the pretext of law; and that his ongoing R.I.C.O.  suit [ see ] proves his belief.    We shall see what Big Ray's case reveals.



Editor's note: To help clarify these rather unusual concepts here are three URLs for reference:
Redemption/Strawman >  http://www.bbcoa.com/ .
Pro >  http://www.freedomcommittee.com/5576/freedom/redemption-ab1.pdf .
Con>  http://proliberty.com/observer/19991006.htm .

   current communiques from Big Ray in jail .


 back to my main page .

58 posted on 10/15/2002 8:05:24 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Under Karczewski's legal theory Judge Coon did not have lawful jurisdiction to hear his matter and was unlawfully using Karczewski's private property, his copyrighted name.

A new plank for the Libertarian Party platform!!!

64 posted on 10/15/2002 8:14:29 AM PDT by Roscoe
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