D.C. SNIPER TERROR: 'This guy is good, but not as a shooter'

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Tuesday, October 15, 2002 | Jon Dougherty

[4Freedom]

There you go being mean-spirited about our borders being left wide open.

Tom Ridge and George Bush have made it clear that it would send the wrong message to our fine neighbors and Middle Eastern member nations of the U.N. for us to seal our borders even after an event such as 9/11.

Sealing our borders would be an affront to our cultural and traditional role as sitting ducks for every sick, twisted, two-bit, psycho extremist with an axe to grind against the West.

I'm shocked you don't agree.

Hmmm, you're another one that must have slipped your conditioning. You've stopped watching CNN too, haven't you? ;^)

[99tango]

see the previous post to FR, note the date.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/688139/posts

[tm22721]

I'm surprised that no one noticed a muzzel flash

Ever hear of a muzzle flash suppressor ?

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[Intimidator]

bump for later

[aristeides]

What defense do we have? Nada!

We can intern and deport.

[aristeides]

When I asked on another thread about intercepting such communications, somebody said they would be encrypted. But couldn't you at least monitor for mysterious encrypted communications, and do direction-finding and traffic analysis on them? Time to bring in the NSA?

[Alouette]

You can take accurate 100 yard shots with a good Civil War era design black powder rifle.

You're right. Weren't the Berdan Sharpshooters trained as snipers during the Civil War?

[copycat]

I don't see how this guy is scoping out his sites for days considering he shoots one each day of the week...unless he is choosing sites on the weekend.

[copycat]

It seems logical to me that if these guys spent years learning how to do their deeds of 9-11, they could have also spent time learning to shoot. There could be other cells in other cities ready to do the same thing.

The Al Queda cell captured in Portland, OR was caught practicing marksmanship in a stone quarry.

Lends credence to the Al Queda "wave" of terror theory.

[jacquej]

The "government" could, but it won't. You know that. There is no legal reason they cannot do it, but the "civil rights" folks would have a turkey and it would be politically incorrect to do so.

In addition to the endless numbers of "innocent" immigrants, both legal and non-legal, the universities would be furious, and those who are here on visas could tie up the INS in even worse knots than now.

We do not have control over our borders, and will not be able to gain control.

In my humble opinion, this is one reason why the possibility that this is Muslim terrorism just cannot be discussed seriously by the LE, or by Homeland Security, which now seems to be Government's equivalent of a band-aid on a melanoma.

Seriously, Aristeides, do you think there is any realistic chance we would intern and deport? What about Louis Farrakhan and his troops? Shall we intern all American Muslims too? After all, they are just practicing their "religion", and we have been told it is "one of peace"

To me the only question is whether we "frogs" are being boiled or fried.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

There is a very good reason why, Chuckie boy. The 2nd Ammendment comes to mind. Plus the fact that it would be a useless law to catch someone like this who would have undoubtedly modified his weapon to leave no such fingerprints. Or did Chuckie intentionally miss the fact that the shooter leaves no brass?

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

My response was to this quote by Senator Charles Schumer:

"We let our police use human fingerprints; why don't we let our police use the fingerprint that guns and bullets make?" asked Schumer.

[krb]

Another hint: The shooter is leaving no brass bullet casings behind, he says, noting that snipers are trained to pick up their brass

Get real...with the proliferation of crime shows on fifty-eleven different cable networks even I would know not to leave brass around, and I don't know anything about guns or shooting sports. Seriously, any couch potato who spent a weekend surfing The Discovery Channel, CourTV, TLC, or The History Channel would be able to figure that out.

Oh yeah, throw in the dozen or so flavors of Law and Order also...

[OKSooner]

One could learn a lot from books I suppose, but shooting a rifle is a lot like learning a golf swing. (The operational aspects of sniping are something I know NOTHING about.) There are some who do it well, some who only know what they've read somewhere, and all the rest of us are just hackers after years of practice.

Hitting a target the size of a small plate at 150 yards is not easy for a "hacker", and add to that the stress that must surely (I wouldn't know it from experience, to tell the truth) exist when shooting something besides paper, and you're outside the 1st deviation.

[4Freedom]

Yes, I've posted the details from al Qaida training videos that were found in Afghanistan around the same time Abu Z. was singing.

What this all shows is that our government has had warnings that exactly these kinds of tactics would be employed by al Qaida operatives as far back as prior to 5/23/02.

Yet, the media is just now getting around to the discussion of terrorism 2 weeks after the first shooting?

Are Saudi travel agents still able to procure 'Express' Visas for Middle Easterners that purchase a certain travel package? I know the State Dept. changed the name of the 'Express' Visa Program, but for all intents and purposes it still works the same, right?

Will these victims be remembered as martyrs for the 'New World Order'?

This should be part of their epitaph, 'They made the ultimate sacrifice for Globalism.'

[porte des morts]

You make some very good points. Adding to them (if I may)...

It would seem that LE is not releasing all the information, and in some cases giving misleading information for public consumption.

This latest shot was to the head and at night....even at 100-125 yards, not to bad of a shot.(how many of the others were to the head?)Answer:we don't know. This latest shot was reported as 'upper body' also. It has leaked out and been confirmed by witnesses that it was to the head.

At what distance are these shots from? I don't think the feds are giving us a truthful answer in the 100 yard theory. If there is no brass and no one saw the shooter, forensics would be the only way to tell, and with a busted up round to work with it is all a lot of guess work.(and easier to keep quiet, very few would know the real answer.)

I guess my real point here is we don't have all the facts, and I think a lot of the facts we have are misinformation.

[Ditter]

You have practiced for years & still consider yourself a "hacker" who would have difficulty hitting a small plate at 150 yards? We are a family of deer hunters & every member of our family, women (I am a woman)included could do this. It is not a huge feat. Now shooting a another human being would be an added level of stress that I can't even imagine but then we don't hate anyone, not yet anyway.

[Snowy]

I don't see how this guy is scoping out his sites for days considering he shoots one each day of the week...unless he is choosing sites on the weekend.

He/they did not shoot anyone on a Tuesday (keep your fingers crossed). Also, I think the "Michael's" connection could be significant. Terrorists always seem to do things like that. Did anyone else notice that "Michael" is now the most popular baby name in the country? Someone on another thread said that if you plot the "Michael's" shootings on a map, they make a cross...

[4Freedom]

"Get real...with the proliferation of fifty-eleven different crime shows on cable networks even I would know not to leave brass around, and I don't know anything about guns or shooting sports.

Pick up some of the books by Jeffrey Deaver. 'The Coffin Dancer' is probably required reading in al Qaida's sniper school.

If you can learn to outsmart 'Lincoln Rhyme', what chance does the average LEO have?

"Feeling a little wormy, a little cringy."

[4Freedom]

"...there goes the retail economy."

Think the terrorists know that most retail operations make or break it financially for the whole year based on their sales between now and the end of the holiday season?