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Bush hits state's emission rules He backs carmakers in lawsuit
SF Chronicle ^
| 10/10/02
| Bob Egelko
Posted on 10/10/2002 9:18:11 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:41:08 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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In an unprecedented federal attack on a California auto pollution program, the Bush administration backed carmakers Wednesday in a legal challenge to the state's requirements for increased sales of electric and low- polluting vehicles.
Justice Department lawyers filed papers with the U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco arguing that the state Air Resources Board's latest zero- emissions rules violate the federal government's exclusive authority to regulate fuel efficiency. The ARB rules do not dictate mileage-per-gallon standards but allow manufacturers to comply by selling a certain percentage of fuel-efficient hybrid vehicles that run on both gasoline and electricity.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: autoshop; carmakers; emmissionrules
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Detroit could have had a better effect if they would have immediately complied with this model year. They could have withdrawn all gasoline powered vehicles from Cali and offered only electro-crap and fart-powered.
Sure, there's a lot of sales to be had in Cali, but the screams of protest from regular folks would be shrill as the prices for "cheap" foreign cars would have soared in response to increased demand. The greenies would have gotten their wish and the "people" would finally have seen the fruits of the green agenda.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Justice Department lawyers filed papers with the U.S. Court of Appeals in San Francisco arguing that the state Air Resources Board's latest zero- emissions rules violate the federal government's exclusive authority to regulate fuel efficiency....The Bush administration argued Wednesday that the state was violating the 1975 law that established federal regulation of fuel economy and barred states from enforcing any rules "related to fuel economy standards." I believe that particular federal government power is in Article 364, Section 228, Paragraph 3 of the Emanations of the Penumbra of the Constitution, right after the right to an abortion.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Just a stupid question.... Why does California have the "dirtiest" air? Certainly they have a high population, but it's also a HUGE state.
Quite honestly, I don't think anyone has a problem with fuel efficient vehicles - so long as we don't have to sacrifice power. I would love it if my Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab Magnum V8 360ci truck got 50 mpg. Unfortunatley, the technology is just not there.
What's the answer? It's going to take someone a whole lot smarter and better educated than me to figure that one out.
To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Good News!
Appears that President Bush has decided to let the Watermelons of Kali know that they can't proceed on illegal ways to achieve their goals of no cars in Kali.
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp; RonDog; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; Liz; d14truth; Shermy; ...
Here is a great campaign item for Bill Simon;
The Weasel, Gov. Gray Davis called the Bush administration's intervention in a California issue irresponsible.
To: Grampa Dave
Sounds like a good start to me.
To: TheBattman
We have the largest population and the largest economy of any state, and since the economy is tied closely to energy production, and energy production releases pollutants... it's not hard to reason out unless you're a watermelon. Oh, and we have a bunch of oil refineries down in the LA basin and up by the port of Richmond.
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posted on
10/10/2002 9:32:48 AM PDT
by
mvpel
To: mvpel
We need an executive order that will make it a crime for any card carrying enviral watermelon to ride or drive any vehicle that is powered by internal combustion engines.
They can only buy food that was raised without the use of any internal combustion motors and delivered on the backs of watermelon jihadists.
Nor can they buy or use any product that may have been tainted by an internal combustion engine during the delivery of material needed for the manufacturing of the items and the delivery of the items to the market place.
Lets remove the evil internal combustion engines and combine it with a minimalist lifestyle with all watermelons. Then monitor it for a couple of centuries to see if it is good for the rest of mankind.
To: *Auto Shop
To: TheBattman
Why does California have the "dirtiest" air? Your use of quotes is appropriate. We might have the "dirtiest" air, but that doesn't mean that the air is all that dirty. Air quality over the past quarter century has improved dramatically. When I was a kid, I remember days when you couldn't clearly see the other end of the school parking lot 150 meters away. Now, we never have smog that bad. (Smoke from run-away forest fires in areas where the greenies wouldn't allow cutting, perhaps, but not smog!)
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posted on
10/10/2002 10:28:33 AM PDT
by
Redcloak
To: TheBattman
I don't know the exact figures, but the overwhelming majority of California's population is in the coastal urban Southern California megalopolis. Ventura County blends into Los Angeles County blends into Orange County blends into San Diego County as virtually one continuous city.
If you look at a map, you'll find that is a relatively tiny portion of the state, and yet the bulk of its population is there.
Most of the state by volume is pure desert land, which has little value without connections to a major urban area. And few Californians want to live far from the beach, especially since the seaside climate is by far our best. The further inland it is, the more miserably hot it gets in summer, and the chillier the winters.
I live in the San Fernando Valley, which is inland, and it's very hot. I would much rather live in the cooler Westside or Western Orange County, but housing is incredibly expensive there - prices range from 50% more expensive than where I live to, well, many times more. And most people would consider housing here expensive.
D
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