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To: Rocksalt
"For SOME people, fine. SOME people are susceptible to sugar addiction; should we ban sugar?"

Your comparisons are degenerating at a progessive rate.

When you can't rebut the argument, hurl an insult. You've learned well from your Nanny-Statist mentors.

"Why compare the ONSET of crack addiction to LATE STATE alcohol addiction?"

Any stage of crack addiction is comparable to late stage alcoholism,

So you claim. Why should we believe you?

in fact it is worse,as alcoholics are not known nearly as much for their criminal behavior relating to their addiction.It takes alot more money to fuel a crack addiction than an alcohol addiction.

That's solely because crack is illegal. Thanks for bringing up this powerful anti-WOD argument.

"As I say in post 65, "I advocate a LESSENING of state controls."

You merely advocate a shifting of state control,

No, a lessening---regulation is less intrusive than prohibition.

and at the same time would favor greater availability of deadly poisons to youth

Doubtful. Kids can now get pot more easily than cigarettes or beer; and legalizing drugs for adults would give sellers a new economic incentive to not sell to kids---namely, the risk of losing their legal adult sales.

"Police should protect individuals from all violence."

Too bad they can't be everywhere at once.

Straw man---I never said they could. Are you saying that we should ban nonviolent acts that MIGHT lead to violence? Then by your logic we should ban all gun sales.

"There is no evidence to support the claim that snorting or injecting cocaine stimulates violent behavior. [...] Anecdotal reports notwithstanding, no research evidence supports the notion that becoming high on hallucinogens, amphetamines, or PCP stimulates violent behavior in any systematic manner."

That is goverment horsepucky.Likely written by a liberal researcher who is making a hundred grand a year to spit that garage out.

You don't know who wrote it, but you know he's a "liberal." That's the Drug Warrior's anti-rational mindset in a nutshell.

Any 15 year old kid in Riverside CA.,the crank capitol of the US can tell you meth freaks commonly get very violent.I have seen PCP users who spin out of control,and it sometimes takes 6 cops to control their superhuman strength.

From the same USDoJ report: "Preexisting psychosis appears to account for occasional violent outbursts by people who are under the influence of amphetamines or hallucinogens, especially PCP. While these drugs are well known to cause disorganized, bizarre behavior, they trigger violence in very few people who are not also psychotic."

81 posted on 11/01/2002 6:28:30 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
"That's solely because crack is illegal."

The cravings caused by crack are much more intense than alcohol.These will not go away suddenly if it became legal.

"Any stage of crack addiction is comparable to late stage alcoholism"

"So you claim. Why should we believe you?"

I would consider it worse-since it fuels alot more crime.

"Doubtful. Kids can now get pot more easily than cigarettes or beer; and legalizing drugs for adults would give sellers a new economic incentive to not sell to kids---namely, the risk of losing their legal adult sales."

An economic incentive not to sell to kids does not mean it will not continue to reach their hand-just like it does now,except it will be more readily available.

"From the same USDoJ report: "Preexisting psychosis appears to account for occasional violent outbursts by people who are under the influence of amphetamines or hallucinogens, especially PCP. While these drugs are well known to cause disorganized, bizarre behavior, they trigger violence in very few people who are not also psychotic."

I'll agree these drugs are known to cause disorganized,bizarre behavior,but I think they trigger alot more violent behavior than statistics claim. They are deadly poisons and this is the reason I do not favor legal access for anyone who wants them.I will continue to support legal access to a system of registered addicts.I'm running out of time tonight,but will get back to your other post soon.




93 posted on 11/01/2002 6:37:50 PM PST by Rocksalt
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