[Hitlerys uterus]

Culturist is much more apropriate to what we are seeing in this case. Yes the nazis were a pox on humanity. But not all germans were nazis or even sympathetic. Certainly the irish and the brits have been known to lift a few in toasting the queens good health. But not all. Clearly the travellers have within their group a rather seedy element. But to tar the entire group, any group, for the actions of some of their members is beneith americans in general and FReepers in particular. Excepting of course the french.

[FITZ]

Clearly the travellers have within their group a rather seedy element. But to tar the entire group, any group, for the actions of some of their members

What happens if an Irish Traveller gets a decent job, settles down, learns proper English, and doesn't live that lifestyle? Wouldn't they just then be regular Irish ethnicity and no longer would be Irish Travelers? Aren't the Irish Travelers a group of ethnic Irish who travel around scamming people and getting their wealth in illegal or at least shady ways? It seems like a criminal culture to me.

[El Gato]

My point was that just as the group shouldn't be denigrated for the actions of the few, the few should not be defended by the many, just because they are a member of the group.