[joan]

Throughout Bosnia, except for the Muslim followers of Fikret Abdic, the Bosnian Muslims and Croats were slaughtering, ethnically cleansing, torturing, etc. just about all the Serbs they could. Typical treatment for Serbs was continuous beatings in jails and other prisons. Most of these Serb survivors would be in very sorry shape today, if they'd be shown to a camera - many lost several of their teeth and had bones broken. A freeper who workd with refugees knows a Bosnian Serb man whose facial bones had all been broken by Muslims, he left the U.S. and went back (but to Yugoslavia and not Bosnia, as I understand it), and one reason was because he saw two of the Muslim men who tortured him living here.

And they were doing this from the very start. 99% of those in mass graves in Sarajevo have been, IDENTIFIED (keyword!) as Serbs. This includes many Serbs who were decapitated - and this was done by Balkan Muslims before the Mujahadeen came. I can also find reports which show Bosnian Muslim involvment in Croatia before the Bosnian war. A couple Bosnian Muslims accidently blew themselves up when they meant to attack Montenegro beach goers - that was August 1991.

http://www.newint.org/chronicle/CRONIC.HTM

BOSNIA Recently released secret documents reveal that in the first days of the war, Muslim paramilitary leaders murdered scores of Bosnian Serb civilians in Sarajevo.

Mass graves of Sarajevo Serbs

According to our documentation, about 460 Serbs were killed in different parts of Sarajevo, including the outer suburbs Hrasnica, Tarcin, Pazaric etc. However, based on the number of the uninvestigated [mass graves] (these data are confirmed by the individuals close to the authorities and foreign organizations active in this field) the actual number is three times higher, at least 1,500. There are estimates that the actual number of victims is as high as 3,000...

Unfortunately, "Kazani" is only one of the places where the corpses of the murdered people were hidden, if I can use that expression. Some of them were not Serbs, but 99 percent of them were. According to the information available to us, all together 30 corpses were found in "Kazani". Actually, 30 heads and 29 bodies. All the corpses were decapitated. However, murders occurred elsewhere as well...

Besides the infamous "Kazani" during the war corpses of the victims had been found in other parts of the city: in gutters, on the Trebevic bypass road, on the road to Pale, in Velesici, Pofalici, Brijesce, Buljakov Potok, Hrasno Brdo, Dobrinja... It is very important to mention that private prisons in which, according to certain evidence, murders of Serbs had taken place, were never investigated. As an example, I would like to mention prison "Stela" in Novi Grad, prison "Sunce" in Dobrinja, prison run by the then Fourth Motorized Brigade in Hrasnica, camp "Silos" in Tarcin and some other places.

[Angelus Errare]

Please understand, I'm not disputing the Bosnian Muslim atrocities or justifying them or apologizing for them. As I said in another thread, Wahhabiyyah Islam seems to spring up such groups like weeds. As the Soviet Bloc crumbled and freedom of religion became widespread it strikes me as only natural that they would act in such a fashion. Wahhabism is every bit as poisonous to Islamic societies as communism is to democracies.

However, I think that it's naive at best to claim that the Serbs committed no atrocities in Bosnia or Kosovo simply because elements of the Muslim paramilitaries (the same folks who are now turning Macedonia into a hellhole) and that as the fighting went on that they became further radicalized. But there is no excuse for lumping all of the Bosnian Muslims into the same group and failing to recognize that Serb forces and their paramilitary counterparts did some very nasty things in Kosovo.

That being said, the very idea that all of these al-Qaeda militias (let's face it, that's the accusation being floated around here) operated with the full support of the Croatian government borders on pure absurdity. The Croatians are Catholics, do you really think that they wouldn't be the first ones on the chopping block in the event such groups succeeded? Don't you think that this would have at least crossed their minds?