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Another DC-area sniper-style shooting
Wife (FReeper nina0113) | October 4, 2002 | Steve0113

Posted on 10/04/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Steve0113

Another broad-daylight shooting just occurred, this time in Fredericksburg, VA, just off I-95. It's not even on the news yet.

About an hour's drive south of where the Montgomery County shootings happened, a woman was shot in the parking lot of a Michaels fabric store. My wife was in the store at the time. The victim had left the store and carried her purchases to her minivan. She unlocked the minivan and was loading her stuff into it when she was shot. No sign of the shooter.

No one else was injured.

The woman was taken away in an ambulance, condition unknown. Her license plate (which I'm not going to post) indicated that she had several children.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; randomshooting
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To: FreeTheHostages
DC police tend to hunt in a self-destructively recursive manner, as we learned in the Levy case: they may be coded in LISP.

That's the SFPD...

561 posted on 10/04/2002 6:06:57 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Poohbah
~.~ Thank yew...
562 posted on 10/04/2002 6:08:15 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
Wow, they don't call you null and void for nothing do they?

;)

Sincerely, I remain, a fellow math person,
563 posted on 10/04/2002 6:08:22 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Cobra Scott
Unfortunately, I think the folding stock takes about 10 inches off the length of the weapon, putting it just under the NFA limit at 25.5". I'm not an FFA, so double check the numbers, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
564 posted on 10/04/2002 6:08:46 PM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: FreeTheHostages
Five in one day. Isn't that a funkle?...
565 posted on 10/04/2002 6:09:30 PM PDT by null and void
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To: FreeTheHostages
Actually, "serial killer" is a very specific term in criminology. Someone can kill a bunch of folks in sequence, but that isn't what makes him a serial killer.

What makes one a serial killer is that one focuses on a particular TYPE of victim--in a sense, they're VERY monogamous, in that they ALWAYS kill the same kind of person.

566 posted on 10/04/2002 6:10:19 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: lizma
Or more than one group?
567 posted on 10/04/2002 6:12:17 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: Poohbah
"Actually, "serial killer" is a very specific term in criminology. Someone can kill a bunch of folks in sequence, but that isn't what makes him a serial killer."

Actually, I've done homicide prosecutions in this jurisdiction and you're wrong.

:P

No seriously. No really. I don't know what y'all are learning on court TV, but around here, this is a serial killing! Sheesh, I'd be giggling but it would be nervous giggling too. Because they may be right about the terrorism.
568 posted on 10/04/2002 6:13:18 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: FreeTheHostages
How come I can play speed chess really well on the internet tonight..

Half my household is doing that very thing tonight!

569 posted on 10/04/2002 6:13:42 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Tree of Liberty
If I were to fudge things I'd still shoot for 27" or better, I was just wondering about an original. I have recieved conflicting info from LEO freinds.
570 posted on 10/04/2002 6:14:43 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: FreeTheHostages
this *is* a serial killer, pretty much by definition

Actually, the FBI classification for this sort of murderer is, I believe, "spree killer" (someone who commits multiple murders in a short time frame, as opposed to a serial killer, who kills over the course of months and years). Of course, he could be both a spree killer and a serial killer, if he has killed before.

571 posted on 10/04/2002 6:14:55 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: xm177e2
"...The advantage of using a suppressor over a silencer is ..."

What is the difference between a suppressor and a silencer ?

572 posted on 10/04/2002 6:15:21 PM PDT by gatex
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To: GirlShortstop
Clicked but it says it doesn't exist.
573 posted on 10/04/2002 6:16:01 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: RogueIsland
Wow, everyone's an expert.

OK, you all talk about the language from this or that book or website or TV.

Everyone in the room who has actually prosecuted a homicide in this jurisdiction raise your hands:

Hmmm, that would be me.

Let's see what in the REAL WORLD the actual prosecutor would call someone who kills 5 people in one day. What words would be used with the press, with the jury, all about and around?

Multi-tasking homicidal maniac?
BUZZER nope
FBI Classificatoion #6
BUZZER nope
Serial Murderer
bing!!

In fact, just for y'alls edification, when a guy rapes several different women, we all call them a serial rapist even if there aren't many similarities in the crime (which there usually are).

OK, all sarcasm (mostly directed at silly posts, Rogue, not your kinda interesting one) aside, I don't think we know yet whether this is a spree that has ended. I think we're still in the middle of something.
574 posted on 10/04/2002 6:18:53 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Tree of Liberty
Can you install a slightly longer barrel?
575 posted on 10/04/2002 6:19:09 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: GirlShortstop
FBI: Maryland shootings fit no category

From the opening line.

FBI: Maryland shootings fit no category Agency profilers can see no motive other than terrorism

576 posted on 10/04/2002 6:19:49 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: gatex
Oops, they are actually the same. The difference is whether you use subsonic or full-power ammo.

In fact, people generally don't call them "silencers" any more, because they aren't truly silent.

577 posted on 10/04/2002 6:20:14 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: Cobra Scott
Or more than one cell? Maybe.
578 posted on 10/04/2002 6:20:44 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Steve0113
Can you fire a high-power .223 from a handgun?

The short answer is yes, Remington XP-100 single shot bolt action, is one example. Some folks wouldn't call that a handgun, but technically it is. Short barrel, pistol grip only, no shoulder stock. Another is the Thompson Contender, single shot break action.

In fact there is one site (at least)

That thinks JFK was shot with an XP-100 (in .222 caliber, closely related to the .223)

Here's a couple of versions of the XP-100. The latter is very custom job.


579 posted on 10/04/2002 6:21:57 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: FreeTheHostages
yet I can't persuade ET in this thread that this person who killed 5 people all in one day qualifies as a "serial killer"? Why

See post #576 for your answer.

580 posted on 10/04/2002 6:23:01 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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