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State seeks ruling on special election (Hawaii Wants To Do A NJ)
Honolulu Advertiser ^ | 10/3/02 | Kevin Dayton

Posted on 10/03/2002 8:03:03 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:18:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Cayetano Administration plans to ask the Hawai

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionexemption; mink; statesupremecourt
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1 posted on 10/03/2002 8:03:03 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
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2 posted on 10/03/2002 8:03:19 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Beat you to it (grin). Click Here
3 posted on 10/03/2002 8:07:16 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Gov Cayetano is not a very popular politician. He wouldn't be elected to any office if he decided to run again. His wife, Vicky, wanted to run for mayor of Honolulu but thought the better of it - the Cayetano name is death with the voters.

The gov has been bad mouthing all the candidates for his job - even his own lieutenant governor. Evidently, he doesn't like any of the candidates.

This year, Linda Lingle, Cayeatno's opponent during the last election, has a real good chance of becoming governor. If successful, she'd be the first woman and the first Republican elected to the office since statehood in 1959.

If the process required by law played itself out (costing taxpayers $4 million), unsuccessful candidates for governor/lieutenant governor would probably run for the congressional House seat previously occupied by the now deceased Patsy Mink.

It's my personal opinion that Gov. Cayetano doesn't want this to happen, and he's hiding this under the cloak of saving money.

4 posted on 10/03/2002 8:15:28 PM PDT by etcetera
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Are they looking to screw the military, too?
5 posted on 10/03/2002 8:17:42 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Gov. Ben Cayetano said last night his administration would ask the Hawai'i Supreme Court to make an exception to state law,

"Could you change the Florida election law for us because we're losing? Thanks."
"Could you change the New Jersy election law for us because we're losing? Thanks."
"Could you change the Hawaii election law for us because we could lose? Thanks."
"Could you change the....the.....we'll get back with you later- after we check these polls. Thanks."

6 posted on 10/03/2002 8:22:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
You know this isn't nearly as bad as the NJ deal, because there is a death involved. Many states have ruled death trumps law (NJ did it before). But the point is well made. At what point does it stop?

Oh wait, I know when it stops...when a republican tries it.

7 posted on 10/03/2002 8:47:32 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
So the difference between NJ and Hawaii is that in NJ the Dems wanted a live person off the ballot,while in Hawaii they want to keep a dead person on the ballot.

I guess it makes perfect sense to a Democrap.

8 posted on 10/03/2002 8:48:49 PM PDT by oldsalt
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To: oldsalt
I think Patsy was already room temperature BEFORE the deadline. They just kept her on life support for a few days while they figured out what to do.
9 posted on 10/03/2002 8:54:20 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: oldsalt; for-q-clinton; concerned about politics
Three great posts in a row! (#6, 7, 8)
10 posted on 10/03/2002 8:58:50 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Mensch; fish hawk
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11 posted on 10/03/2002 9:00:57 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The governor said state Attorney General Earl Anzai would review the New Jersey decision before filing with the Hawai‘i Supreme Court.

Of course they would - how else to "get away with it?"

12 posted on 10/03/2002 9:07:46 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Cayetano Administration plans to ask the Hawai‘i Supreme Court to grant an exemption to state law so the special election for the unfinished term of the late U.S. Rep. Patsy Mink can be held at the same time as the general election.

How long will it be before the dims ask for a "special election" any time their candidate loses? Seems like we are about there.

13 posted on 10/03/2002 9:19:23 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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PS: THIS is what the absence of tort reform has wrought. Once attorneys feel completely unencumbered, with no penalty for frivolous lawsuits, they will become emboldened as they have to pursue the fringe "cases". Well, here we are.
14 posted on 10/03/2002 9:22:01 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I am not up in arms yet; the candidate has expired and so it seems to me she should not be on teh ballot!!!
15 posted on 10/03/2002 9:23:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: etcetera
Interesting thoughts - whoever won the "special" election would definitely have a foot up on the "special, special election," and make it much more difficult for the loser of the gubernatorial bid to run.

I just realized some of the more Republican parts of Oahu have been redistricted into Abercrombie's district. I guess that's part of what they have to decide as to who would be able to vote in which special election.

Actually Cayetano has been better than I expected. Some of the corruption that has come to light I'm afraid would have remained hidden under some of the other libs we've had. I'm looking forward to the Rodrigues trial. Plus (and forgive me, I read your profile), he's been a bit of a union buster, which the state needs even more of. The unions have been running the show for too long. They served their place well many years ago, but the tables have turned and they are now the power brokers.

16 posted on 10/03/2002 9:30:15 PM PDT by Spyder
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hey, it's good for the economy. Now instead of having to bribe and keep bribing legislators to pass those laws which take months and years to pass we can save money by bribing judges. Bribe enough judges and bam, instant law. Don't need to worry about that pesky will of the people thing, elections, or anything like that.

17 posted on 10/03/2002 9:33:20 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
No way is this like NJ. Patsy Mink would have won if she were alive and while liberal, there is no indication she was dishonest or corrupt (maybe crazy and misguided, but not corrupt). Torrecelli was a corrupt loser. The gov. wants to save the taxpayers 2 million dollars by moving the special election by 25 days. Saving money is a good idea. He does not want to take mink's name off the ballot and put someone else on. I don't see anything wrong with what the governor is doing here.
18 posted on 10/03/2002 9:50:54 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
I don't see anything wrong with what the governor is doing here.

One itsy-bitsy problem: according to Federal law, absentee/military ballots should have been sent out already (35 days before the election). Did Hawaii not send out the ballots? If they didn't mail the ballots, they are in violation of Federal law. If they did send out the ballots, they have the same disenfranchisement problem as New Jersey -- but what the heck, what's more important, the law/constitution/voters' rights or $2 million?

The way this is going, why don't we just instruct the military, no matter what state they're from, to disregard the first absentee ballot and await further instructions? (sarcasm off).

19 posted on 10/03/2002 10:18:49 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As The Great One, Mark Levin, stated today on Sean's show, "we are on a slippery slope". Pray for our country.
20 posted on 10/03/2002 10:27:36 PM PDT by bayareablues
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