REV. JERRY FALWELL CALLS THE PROPHET MOHAMMED 'A TERRORIST'

Drudge Report ^ | 10/3/02 | Matt Drudge

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

Heck, Muslims want to outlaw this type of speech. How long until the Left takes up this cause ?

To rephrase this question: How many Americans must die before the left abandons their hopeless leaders and arguments?

[concerned about politics]

Drudge is trying to make Bush look bad here, by associating him with Falwell and the religious right.

Bush already confessed to being a Christian. So did Ashcroft. Bush also used the words "axis of evil."
I'd think Bush agrees with Fallwell.

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

How I wish we had better spokesmen who could realize that the best way to advance our cause is not to go around sticking your fingers in someone's eye just to make a point.

I disagree. The truth will prevail when the "shit" hits the fan. And with the "left" in control, the "shit" will hit the fan. It's just a question of when. I'm tired of being "sensitive" and am done letting the liberals lie. I call ANYONE on it, ANYWHERE and ANYTIME. When things get nasty and more people pay attention to issues that really could affect their lives (unlike Kurt Warner's passing averages), all will be well again.

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

And, of course, who can forget his blaming of gays for 9/11.

Do tell. I totally missed this story. What exactly did he say or do?

[YoungKentuckyConservative]

AND....here comes the one world government, the collective, the Global Community

You nailed it! This is the goal of the left and all of the sinister ideologies they continue to brainwash the sheep with. Glad to see someone else can see it.

[concerned about politics]

Anyone disagree? As a man of faith, Falwell will be considered a hypocrite because he isnt showing "love" or "acceptance" of people of other faiths.... BLAH.

No. His job is not to agree with other faiths. Love the sinner in need to show them the love of one God, otherwise, speek out or shun them. "Get thee behind me, Satan."

[tracer]

Oh, well. The Reverend Falwell was "In Good Hands With Allstate." Next stop: Lloyd's of London.....

[truthandlife]

Jerry, not very helpful in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ. If I was 'lost' and a Muslim and I heard Jerry Falwell call my religious prophet a 'terrorist', Christianity would be the last place I would turn to. Even if I agreed with Falwell, for a man claiming to be a messenger of the Gospel, this is not helpful in "making disciples of all nations."

[Cicero]

Well, I had to take a break for lunch, but let me respond to a few of these posts all at once, because now I have to go out and buy a picket fence.

As I said in my original post, I think Drudge (who has always disliked Bush) is trying to use Falwell to bash Bush once again. And no doubt 60 minutes has the same agenda. They may stack the interview to try to make Falwell to look like a fool. And they are the guys who do the cutting and pasting.

So, maybe Falwell has put his foot in his mouth again. He has clearly spoken the truth, but at a bad time in the run-up to election. The liberals would love to make Bush look like a dangerous fundamentalist-lover, which would make some voters hesitate to vote Republican in November.

But they tried it once before, with McCain and Bush's visit to Bob Jones University, and it backfired on them. I think most Americans will agree with Falwell, and it will make them think a bit more about what's already on their minds about the Islamic problem.

I agree that Bush should keep his distance from this kind of stuff. His job is to split the opposition, and that can best be done by the useful fiction that Islam isn't really, truly violent, but that it's only a few misled fanatics we have to worry about. It's not true, if we go by the historical record and the present behavior of most Muslims, but it's politically and strategically useful.

That doesn't mean that people like Falwell can't speak out. Jerry doesn't represent the government. Probably he will make himself unpopular again with this, but he's used to it. And it will serve the purpose of telling some home truths to the American people that Bush can't say from the White House.

[smith288]

No. His job is not to agree with other faiths. Love the sinner in need to show them the love of one God, otherwise, speek out or shun them. "Get thee behind me, Satan."

Many do not understand that principle and only use Flanders from the Simpsons as the example of a typical man of faith.

[SarahW]

I'm not big falwell fan, but he's right about Mohammed. He was an epileptic OCD nutcase who forced conversion by violence if it couldn't be had through
peaceful submission"

And if preacher man can't come out and say one religion is superior to another, then what is the point of a preacher man's existence.

I'm no Falwell fan, but he's right and I'm glad he is willing to point out the obvious.

FWIW, as crazy and laughable as it seems, hid remarks about the purse-toting purple-triangle teletubby were actually fairly accurate. The original fellow who portrayed the purple tele-tubby WAS gay (he was eventually fired) and the character partially built around the idea of making it "ok" for little boys to be soft and sensitive - i'm sure the triangle was not a "gay plot", and part of the swishiness was unconscious but it WAS present. It did not go lost on the gay community

The purple teletubby was "adopted" as a gay symbol for a short time. Gays went in and scarfed up the purple stuffed dolls, (leaving mothers of tubby fans to scrounge desperately for a full set of the toys), and carried purple teletubby teletubby backpacks around as an ungerground joke.

Now, if homosexuals themselves see the purple teletubby as a gay icon, one can hardly blame falwell for noticing
the same things.

[concerned about politics]

Do tell. I totally missed this story. What exactly did he say or do?

He suggested that liberalism is why other nations hate America. We force them into abortions, homosexual elitisms, childrens rights above their parents council, womans empowerment....etc.
Many countries don't believe in that stuff, but are forced to obey via political correctness laws and blackmail with threats of witholding AID.
Other nations are forced to obey us, or were during the Clinton regime, anyway. 8 years of "you must obey Democrat lifestyles" may have sent them over the edge. It may have been the last straw that broke the camels back.
I have to agree with Fallwell. Other nations houldn't have to be politically correct, or liberal Democrat, if they don't want to.

[concerned about politics]

I agree that Bush should keep his distance from this kind of stuff.

Agreed. It's OK for him to agree personally, but he can't let it blurr any judgements he has to make for all Americans, including the pagans. He's everyones president. It's a job.

[TomSmedley]

AND....here comes the one world government, the collective, the Global Community, under one powerful leader - the man of perdition, the man of sin, the politically correct spirit of Satan, and his mark of worship. Hold on to your hats folks. It ain't gonna be a pretty sight.

Before 1988, your ilk assumed that holy writ predicted the inexorably triumph of global communism. When that hollow ediface collapsed, sane people of faith rejoiced. Your ilk started frantically looking around for other "invincible" foes to cringe before.

In 1992, my God gave me the chance to piss on the grave of communism in Kiev. I'm brushing up on my Turkish in hopes of seeing Islam's credibility collapse as well.

It's far more rewarding, personally, vocationally, and evangelistically, to serve the God of victories. Try it!

[Man of the Right]

There are not a lot of native-born U.S. citizens of English-descent and the Southern Baptist religion with personal contacts in the communities that breed terrorism and their state sponsors who read Arabic fluently, speak unaccented Arabic fluently in the local dialect, and who understand the culture and religion of the countries we will be monitoring, and operating in.

It's going to take a lot of Arabs and Muslims to provide human and signals intelligence and special forces.

Generally, the side with the better intelligence wins the war. Foremost, September 11 was an intelligence failure. Similarly, the failure to account for bin Laden and Sheik Omar was an intelligence failure.

Muslims are as diverse a community as Christians, Jews and Atheists.

If we classify all of them as enemies whether they are or aren't, we're not going to have the intelligence and special forces we need to drive the terrorists to ground.

We can learn from our military past. On at least five occasions in the past, we have won small wars by recruiting from enemy forces and populace and turning them against the enemy: The Apache Campaign, 1885-86; the Philippine Insurrection, 1899-1902; the Moro Campaign, 1906-1913; the Haitian Intervention, 1914-15; and the Nicaraguan Intervention, 1916-34.

[Man of the Right]

There are not a lot of native-born U.S. citizens of English-descent and the Southern Baptist religion with personal contacts in the communities that breed terrorism and their state sponsors who read Arabic fluently, speak unaccented Arabic fluently in the local dialect, and who understand the culture and religion of the countries we will be monitoring, and operating in.

It's going to take a lot of Arabs and Muslims to provide human and signals intelligence and special forces.

Generally, the side with the better intelligence wins the war. Foremost, September 11 was an intelligence failure. Similarly, the failure to account for bin Laden and Sheik Omar was an intelligence failure.

Muslims are as diverse a community as Christians, Jews and Atheists.

If we classify all of them as enemies whether they are or aren't, we're not going to have the intelligence and special forces we need to drive the terrorists to ground.

We can learn from our military past. On at least five occasions in the past, we have won small wars by recruiting from enemy forces and populace and turning them against the enemy: The Apache Campaign, 1885-86; the Philippine Insurrection, 1899-1902; the Moro Campaign, 1906-1913; the Haitian Intervention, 1914-15; and the Nicaraguan Intervention, 1916-34.

[Libertina]

Well we know for certain Mohammed was a murderer... Enough evidence for people NOT to worship him IMHO.

[TomSmedley]

Peaceful Muslims are peaceful DESPITE THEIR RELIGION

Muslims are peaceful when in the minority in a civilized nation. When in the majority, they revert to their other quantum state by vigorously eliminating minorities.

[flamefront]

It's not true, if we go by the historical record and the present behavior of most Muslims, but it's politically and strategically useful.

Aw, cut the political 'strategery;' when do we start the
Crusades?
;-)

[sinkspur]

Two days after 9/11, Falwell was on Pat Robertson's 700 Club and said, essentially, that the decadent lifestyle of Americans, typified by flagrant homosexuality, brought on God's judgment in the form of 9/11.

He apologized and backpedaled a few days later.

Falwell has some kind of seething anger just below that calm exterior of his and it bubbles to the top occasionally.