CONSPIRACY: The Okla. City-Sept. 11 Connection

Philadelphia News ^ | Oct. 03, 2002 | Michael Smerconish

[jd777]

Louis Freeh, are you hearing this?

[spodefly]

After reading through this article and thread, as well as the article posted at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/761191/posts, there is too much here to overlook.

Maybe this will finally bubble up and the story (and the implications contained within) will stop being ridiculed as tinfoil material ...

[Twodees]

It's just you and me thinden.

Room for one more, Fred? You may be right about this thread being ignored, though. Not much interest in anything other than electing republicans around here these days.

[Twodees]

Didn't that A$$hole Clinton let 30,000 or so Iraq soldiers and families settle into our country shortly after we kicked the living $hit out of them.

No, it was more like a few thousand and it was Wobbly who let them in. They're in OKC and the surrounding area, according to what has been posted here in recent years.

[lawdog]

BBTTT!!!!!!!!!

[logician2u]

No, it was more like a few thousand and it was Wobbly who let them in. They're in OKC and the surrounding area, according to what has been posted here in recent years.

While I am not disputing this, I'm more than a bit curious about the circumstances of these former Iraqi soldiers' relocation to the U.S.

Were they let in as refugees, POWs or what? Knowing this could go partway toward either explaining or refuting the so-far unproven charge that Hussain Hashem Al-Hussaini might have been an Iraqi agent.

I'm still open to the idea he and others unknown were connected to a terrorist organization, not a foreign government.

[Twodees]

I really don't remember the circumstances. Since becoming interested in this and getting into the archives here I've read so much on various subjects that it tends to blur. Maybe backhoe or glorygirl could help narrow it down for you with a link or two from the archives. Sorry not to be better at remembering the details, but I do remember that these people came here on GHWBush's watch if what I read was correct.

[fightu4it]

"On September 29, 2001, Chicago attorney David Schippers confirmed the following article’s information to Eagle Forum of Illinois’...."

If Shippers was "just about ready to let the lid off of this" why has he not done so by now? It's been over a year!

[codder too]

Jayna Davis and Schippers did an interview on the Glenn Beck program several weeks ago. You can probably hear it on his web site.

Wall Street Journal ran an extensive article early in September, Editorial page, same material.

Pretty credible material I'd say.

[logician2u]

It will be a great day when the FR archives are once again searchable, IMHO.

I have bookmarks on OKC threads going way back, but darned if I intend to look at each one individually to search out the answers.

It would be simpler just to ask Patrick, but no longer possible in this forum. Bummer.

[fightu4it]

I do not doubt Jayna Davis' work. It is Shippers who has the name recognition and the clout to put this work in front of the public's eyes. All he has to do is call a press conference. So why doesn't he take the lead and do this service for his Country?

[saradippity]

Funny you should mention this.It is one of the other items on my list that I started compiling after the craziness of the news reports that first day in Chicago.

I read that McVeigh had been all happy to be accepted in Delta Force,or some elite special forces unit.The article spoke to his bravery in Iraq and the honors he received and went on to relate the exemplary qualities necessary for selection to this force.I believe the first articles I read only knew he did not complete the training.The next few news releases stated that he had washed out or didn't make the grade.

Shortly thereafter the story that stuck was released. Tim McVeigh had reported for duty was given a psychological test the first day.It was graded and/or evaluated(evidentally)quite quickly because on the second day he was found to be not suitable for the force and was sent away. They said he was bitter.

I mean,really,we are supposed to believe the military can process someone in,administer a test,grade it and determine the person unfit within 24 hours. It does seem they should at least share this efficient system with big government.

[codder too]

I don't know why Shippers hasn't done more with this before now. I believe that Davis held the material tightly for a long time in order to protect it and herself. She may still be the one controlling what is done with it.

Just a thought...Maybe she has more than she has released to the public. Lets hope it gets to the right place if it hasn't already if that is the case.

[ladyinred]

Bump for later reading!

[Marianne]

BTTT

[PhilDragoo]

Jayna Davis' work, affidavits, contemporaneous reports confirm Middle Eastern men with McVeigh, including John Doe Number Two.

TWA Flight 800 wasn't a fuel tank explosion. The obscene lengths the FBI went to to suppress and distort evidence, e.g., bending the fuselage back from its inwardly bent position, indicate otherwise. The most obvious cause would be a terrorist with a Stinger in the boat leaving the scene on the radar track.

Strassmeier as connected to the Hamburg-Atta faction shows promise.

Germany has recently distinguished itself as pro-Iraqi, anti-American.

Still don't understand the banning of OKCSubmariner. At the time I said it was what they do in China. strela said oh no, that's hysterical hyperbole, China is tanks running you over and 9mm's. Funny, I thought China these days was simply censorship of the type they successfully put on Yahoo, while Alta Vista fought it.

[glorygirl]

"Strassmeier as connected to the Hamburg-Atta faction shows promise".

Enlighten me on this, please. (I know about Strassmeir's familial connections to the Nazis). Is someone somewhere suggesting he knew Atta?

[logician2u]

Germany has recently distinguished itself as pro-Iraqi, anti-American.

Phil, I respect your opinion on many things; however, isn't it a stretch to say Germany is "pro-Iraqi" because the German government refuses to back an armed overthrow of the Iraqi government?

I favor decriminalization of all illegal drugs; that doesn't make me "pro-drug." It only means I consider the effects of the WOD worse than the worst possible consequences if we were to abandon it.

[glorygirl]

Anybody who has a question about why OKCSubmariner was banned ought to write to Jim Robinson, not to me. I wasn't the one who banned him.

Jim has a right to ban whoever he wishes -- but he ought to be the one explaining why it happened.

Pat was the one person (ever) on FR who knew EVERTHING that has been reported about the case, and was willing to correspond with other freepers. Even if he was never allowed to post another thing, it would certainly be easier on the rest of us if he was permitted to send and answer private freepmail. It is unfortunate that some of us now have to serve as "go-betweens" in order to get accurate information about this case.

[185JHP]

FBI files contain scurrilous stuff - if there are any FReepers who have enemies, imagine what your worst enemies would say to an FBI agent asking questions about you. It can be 100% bogus - the opposite of the truth - but you will see your reputation trashed by despicable people who can say "Hey, the FBI said it!"