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To: #3Fan
. How is wussing out in the courts beating them at their own game?

As I said on another thread:

Is Forrester really so bad that the only candidate he can beat is a proven cheater? I mean, geez, I hate the SCONJ's ruling too, and it's sad, but if Forrester had an ounce of worth it seems he should be up to taking on all comers...right?

57 posted on 10/02/2002 5:36:40 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine
If, if, if. That's not the point. That's blaming Forrester for what happened. He ran a campaign a certain way because he thought he was running against a specific candidate. The people of New Jersey agreed with him.

-PJ

62 posted on 10/02/2002 5:38:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too
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To: sam_paine
Is Forrester really so bad that the only candidate he can beat is a proven cheater? I mean, geez, I hate the SCONJ's ruling too, and it's sad, but if Forrester had an ounce of worth it seems he should be up to taking on all comers...right?

I, for one, am sick of the rats breaking the freaking law and I want these bastards smacked down in the courts as well as at the ballot box.

Sad to say, however, the former is much more likely than the latter in that cesspool of corruption.

66 posted on 10/02/2002 5:41:10 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: sam_paine
I think Forrester can beat Lautenberg. He has better ideas and is more articulate.

However, this is not fair to Forrester in that his whole campaign was predicated on the Torch being his opponent. Now he has to scrap ads, commission new ones, and change his strategy.

I doubt that Torricelli would have been happy if we had scrapped Forrester at this late date and replaced him with Bruce Willis.

71 posted on 10/02/2002 5:42:57 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: sam_paine
Forrester hasn't lost yet. He has four things in his favor: 1) the stench of the Torricelli matter and the obvious corruption of the state democratic party; 2) the fact that Lautenburg is old as the hills, can't speak worth a damn anymore and looks and talks like he's losing it; 3) Lautenburg only won his last race in 1994 by three percentage points, the same margin Corzine won by in 2000 while spending $68 million of his own money; and, 4) this will energize the Republcan base in the state like nothing else would. A fifth factor should be there, but won't be --despite their overwhelming support for Democrats (usually 95 percent), blacks were passed over entirely in the consideration of substitute candidates. This should be considered a real slap in the face -- the Democratic mayor of New Jersey's largest city is black (Sharpe James of Newark) as is one of the rising new mayors in the country (Doug Palmer of Trenton) and a veteran NJ congressman, Don Payne. Yet none of their names were even mentioned while the state Demos bent over backwards for an old multimillionaire who retired from politics, very tired and wan, two years ago.
76 posted on 10/02/2002 5:46:51 PM PDT by laconic
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To: sam_paine
As I said on another thread: Is Forrester really so bad that the only candidate he can beat is a proven cheater?

Forrester has already spent some of his money defeating Torricelli! Lautenburg comes in with a fresh bank account. You want to just roll over for these Democratic lawbreakers?!

I mean, geez, I hate the SCONJ's ruling too, and it's sad, but if Forrester had an ounce of worth it seems he should be up to taking on all comers...right?

So you never want to stop these Dems from playing on an uneven field? They're going to do this over and over if we don't try to stop them. They'll send out a candidate to drain our guy of his advertising, and then send in a fresh candidate that hasn't had to go through the rigors of a year's worth of campaigning in the primary and the general. Yes I want a candidate to be able to win, but the parties are so even that you can't expect your candidate to have to spend money to defeat 2 or 3 different candidates consecutively.

79 posted on 10/02/2002 5:50:34 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: sam_paine
Is Forrester really so bad that the only candidate he can beat is a proven cheater?

That is not the point.

The phrase has been used so often and in inappropriate situations it has become trite, but the man does have rights, too.

He entered the contest under certain rules and this idea that he can't address this outrage performed by the NJSC today is nonsense.

Having said that, this statement is excellent and HE clearly is not going to make the legal situation the focus of the campaign.

127 posted on 10/02/2002 6:26:33 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: sam_paine
Is Forrester really so bad that the only candidate he can beat is a proven cheater? I mean, geez, I hate the SCONJ's ruling too, and it's sad, but if Forrester had an ounce of worth it seems he should be up to taking on all comers...right?

So now Forrester has to go out and hit more tax cuts, a ban on abortion, elimination of the Brady Bill and all kinds of conservative dogma and the people of this heavily democratic state will just fly to the polls to vote for him. They just need to be told the truth and they will be converted. (SARCASM OFF)

229 posted on 10/02/2002 9:07:28 PM PDT by Dave S
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