NJ Supreme Court Hearing Live Thread

New Jersey Public TV ^ | 10/02/02 | TonyInOhio

[TonyInOhio]

New Jersey Public TV is carrying this hearing live. Click on Watch Live Online, and post what you hear, here.

Tony

[Huck]

Thanks, but it doesn't get through the derned firewall. Keep the updates coming for the (sigh) cubicle drones.

[Petronski]

HOW CAN THE MAJOR NETWORKS NOT CARRY THIS LIVE? HHHMMMMPHH!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Dem. lawyer repeated this judges own previous words back to her on the importance of the voters...Eddie Haskell crossed with Clinton.

"you are asking us to allow for flexibility whenever it would be feasible...how would you ..protect the absentee voters..." Judges asking the Dem. to address specifics....looking for a way to grant the Dems wishes, imho.

[TheBigB]

"Voters have an "over-arching" right to have competitive elections..."

YOU CANNOT INVENT RIGHTS OUT OF THIN AIR, G*DDA*IT!! THERE IS NO MORE "RIGHT A COMPETITIVE ELECTION" THAN THERE IS A RIGHT TO A DECENT PAIR OF SHOES. THE VOTERS OF NJ CAN VOTE FOR FORRESTER, TORRICELLI, THE GREEN, THE LIBERTARIAN, THE BUTCHER, THE BAKER, OR THE FRIGGIN' CANDLESTICK MAKER!! THEY CAN WRITE IN LOUSENBERG IF THEY WANT!! JUST BECAUSE LOUSENBERG'S NAME IS NOT ON THE BALLOT, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE ELCTION IS NOT COMPETITIVE!! HOW THE #$%^& CAN THEY NOT SEE THAT??

Sorry. Sorry. I'm too PO'd to be polite about these damn RATS right now.

[Registered]

The question to the Dem lawyer:

"How would you remedy the problem of the absentee voters (1692 already mailed or 9% of total absentees)?"

[Timesink]

so of course cspam cuts away to the daily house circlejerk ...

They HAVE to. They don't have a choice.

[Registered]

Ballots could be resent, color-coded, numbered, etc...

[gridlock]

People still have a choice between candidates from the two major parties. They can vote Republican for Forrester or they can vote Democratic for Torricelli. It just so happens that Torricelli is losing, but that should not be against the law.

There is absolutely nothing keeping Torricelli from fulfilling his committment to the Democratic Party and the people of New Jersey except for the fact that he does not want to. Well, that's just to bad for Robert Torricelli. He does not have that choice.

The court action that infringes least upon the rights of the people is to deny this one person the right to withdraw his name from the ballot. Then everybody else is still whole. Everybody still has the right to vote for either major party or whomever they want via write-in.

Since Robert Torricelli has made repeated committments to run for Senator, raised and spent millions of dollars based on his promise to run for Senator, and stated in hundreds of public forums that he intends to run for Senator, it seems reasonable that the court would require him to honor his pledge and actually run for Senator.

This is the least intrusive option for the NJ Supreme Court and should be an absolute no-brainer. Plus, it has the added advantage of being in compliance with NJ Law.

[Timesink]

DNC Lawyer - Voters have an "over-arching" right to have competitive elections...

No they don't. There are thousands of elections across the country every year where only one party even has a candidate on the ballot.

[twyn1]

51 day deadline was changed to get more in line with Federal rules, having to do with Absentee ballots and enough time to send and return

[hobbes1]

A justice just pointed out why Torch dropped out.

[mystery-ak]

....cause Fox is covering another car chase!

[Petronski]

Woo hoo! CNN is carrying the video of the hearing, BUT NO AUDIO! WTF?

[TonyInOhio]

'Rat lawyer asking for absentees to cast another, new, ballot if the first was already sent. Since votes aren't counted until Election Day, just count the new one.

[VRWC_minion]

The questioner judge just gave the lawyer a leading question (are you proposing color coding ?) on how to answer the objection of the absentee ballots ? The RAT knows he won his case.

[1Old Pro]

The RAT says let them send in two ballots and we'll accept the one that is for the Dem, uh, er, I mean the second ballot.

[alnick]

The democrat party should be billed for the expenses of this trial.

[cyncooper]

looking for a way to grant the Dems wishes, imho.

I have that feeling, too. Talking how to address the 1600 absentee ballots that have already been returned. Judge wonders if a color coded scheme could be implemented to distinguish from the previous ballot.

I'm getting deja vu back to the Florida Supremes and their probing questions asking for a roadmap in how to accede to the dems' wishes.

[GraniteStateConservative]

Plus, it has the added advantage of being in compliance with NJ Law.

What a concept.

[GeoPie]

The questions they are asking seem to suggest that they are looking for reasons to grant the dems request.