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I don't believe any of this, anymore than I believe the Torch just dropped out in spite of Clinton begging him otherwise.

Torch says clinton asked him to stay and Rush hypothesizes that clinton told him he has to go. Whom do you believe?

The Torch said that he was sorry he let Clinton down. How low do you have to go to let Clinton down?

Exactly, that would have been an interesting conversation to hear. From what Rush read today, Torch was armtwisted into leaving. Now either the fix has to be in with the Supremes, or there is some underhanded stuff going on somewhere else we haven't spotted yet.

The New Jersey situation is an interesting exersize in understanding how democrats think. After watching Bill Clinton at work I am pretty certain that putting a new Democrat on the ballot to replace the torch is a foregone conclusion. The New Jersey Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case of changing the name on the ballot. I can't imagine the Democrats pulling the torch, with out the assurance that the court would rule the new candidate on the ballot.

I can't imagine the Torch pulling out in despair. Why did he do it? I start from the asumption that the Torch had rational reason and there is a real plan with benefits for the Torch. If not, it is the first time in history a Democrat acted on a national scale with out a clear cut plan for his own ultimate victory.

The Wall Street Journal says the Torch was pressured to "pull out". He had to get something in return. A new Jersey Paper was reporting that Bill Bradley said no dice to running. Then the hispanic guy said no then Palone said yes then no. They also said that Frank Lautenberg, the retired New Jersey Senator, said yes he would run and put up the money for his campaign in Torch's place. Does that sound pre-planned or what!!! Surely checks to the campaign committee have been written by Lautenberg.

Before the torch pull out the Democrats surely polled the chances of a new Democratic candidate winning. I think the polls showed Lautenberg could win.

There is a good chance the deal was that Lautenberg will run in place of Torch. I think the polls showed he had a good chance of winning. I think the Democratic members of the new Jersey Supreme court will order his name on the ballot.

Then in a year or so Lautenberg will retire again for health reasons or family reasons or a bad headache or a cramp in his toe,... your basic sounds good whatever. Lautenberg is there to save the seat for the Democrats not serve six more years. If he wanted to server six more years he would have run for re-election in 1996.

The governor, after Lautenbergs second retirement, could then appoint the Torch to the vacant Lautenberg seat.

Did I mention BINGO!!!?

They will have a year or so to paint the Torch as having never been charged with any wrong doing. And that when push came to shove the Torch gave up everything for the good of his party. I think there is a good chance the Torch will be a Senator again in a year or two.

There were meetings last week between the Torch and Daschle. There were confabs with Clinton reported in the press. This is not a spur of the moment decision by disheartened Torch. This is a planned strategy and there is something in it for the Torch...

Betcha....

"Torch says clinton asked him to stay and Rush hypothesizes that clinton told him he has to go. Whom do you believe?"

Neither. They're both lying...