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To: Heartlander; VadeRetro
What is this crap? It wasn’t too long ago that you guys were complaining about getting banned for a day and how the moderators are unfair and bias. Patrick, you even said farewell to everybody and came back – nobody (that I know of) gave you a hard time for this… Heck, I am glad you are back. But now it’s different? Hmmm.

It's very different. I left voluntarily, because of what I saw as biased activity on the part of the moderators. I returned when I saw that the moderators were willing -- sometimes at least -- to apply the rules to both sides of the debate. Medved, on the other hand was banned -- not by me, and not by the evolution side, but by the management of this website. Indeed, his behavior had been so flagrant that his apparent immunity from the rules of this website was one of my biggest concerns, and his banning was what encouraged me to return.

I might be off base here and might not have all the facts – I only get to pop in and out when time permits – but between the placemarkers and pictures you guys post, what is exactly the difference between your spam and ‘anyone’ else’s?

Placemarkers aren't spam. Surely you understand that. They're very brief, they don't consume Jim Robinson's resources (except trivially), and they're helpful to the poster to know where to begin reading when he returns to a thread. Medved's spam, as you must surely know, consisted of long essays, constantly repeated in thread after thread. He was warned about this conduct by the moderators, more than once, yet he persisted. His banning, as I understand it, was for re-posting a spam-essay that had just been deleted. He got himself banned, and the cause was his spam and his violation of the rules. Placemarkers are utterly trivial by comparison. No one has ever been told not to use them. I can't imagine that anyone ever would be.

Pictures also require almost no resources for this website -- just the code is posted. Your own computer retrieves the linked pic from wherever it's stored. Linked pics aren't stored on Jim Robinson's computers, and posting them doesn't abuse his resources. Also, unlike medved's spam essays (which do get stored on Jim Robinson's computers), I virtually never repeat a picture. So my conduct is entirely different from mdeved's. Vade's pics are substantive, directly on point, and are in response to questions about evolution. If a question is asked, it is only natural that the answer should be given. Otherwise, the only permitted response is "Trust me, evolution happens."

You and I often disagree, but you're not a disagreeable fellow, and I'm certain you're bright. So I'm sure you see the difference.

315 posted on 10/02/2002 7:35:22 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Thank you for the polite response.

Maybe Medved can be creative and find a solution…

320 posted on 10/02/2002 7:44:52 PM PDT by Heartlander
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To: PatrickHenry
He got himself banned,

Your hypocrisy is unbelievable. We see right here that it was your friends who got him banned this time. We saw in numerous posts preceding his prior banning the campaign you and the evo-Taliban were conducting against him. He did not get himself banned. He was silenced by a bunch of thugs who knew that what he was saying about evolution was absolutely true and could not make any response to his statements. If you folk had been able to refute his constantly posted article you would have had no need to run to the moderators to silence him.

As to spamming - the ad-hominems, the pictures, the nonsense on the last 100 posts here shows amply well who is spamming these threads - the evolutionists who have nothing to say except insults and off-topic nonsense.

341 posted on 10/03/2002 5:01:18 AM PDT by gore3000
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