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Toricelli & The Courts: Why Not to Worry
The Cincinnati Enquirer | Borgman

Posted on 10/01/2002 5:38:32 AM PDT by xzins



TOPICS: Editorial; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: thesupremes
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1 posted on 10/01/2002 5:38:32 AM PDT by xzins
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2 posted on 10/01/2002 5:39:02 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: xzins
There's a weird opportunity hat I haven't really seen analyzed that I question if it could prevent the Republicans from taking control for a few months.

In Missouri, I believe, a Democrat was appointed by the Governor after the previous senator's death. Therefore, his replacement will take office immediately following the elections rather than waiting for January 2003 like everywhere else. If the Republican candidate wins the election their but the balance stays the same, the Republicans retake control of the Senate only until January. The president can call special session, and bottled up legislation can be put forth then.

But if Toricelli 's seat is bottled up in the court for this time period, couldn't the Democrats deny us that opportunity?

3 posted on 10/01/2002 5:51:53 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: xzins
Mary Jo White news.

OLD news to FReepers

....Nuck,Nuck, Nuck


MoeJo White-Wash

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Passing on the Torch - Sen. Torricelli escapes prosecution ~ WSJ.

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4 posted on 10/01/2002 5:55:06 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: elfman2
I heard one newscaster report that this will not be bottled up in the courts. The NJ Supreme Court (republican controlled) will make a quick decision. Once the 2000 election case got to thre US Supreme Court, they made their decision quickly too. Hopefully, the dems will be told that they have to follow the 51-day law as written. End of story. But who knows?
5 posted on 10/01/2002 5:56:44 AM PDT by twigs
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To: twigs
" The NJ Supreme Court (republican controlled) "

That's encouraging, thanks.

6 posted on 10/01/2002 6:00:14 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: twigs
GOP no longer has a majority on the NJ Supreme Court. All bets are off. The RATS insist on making a mockery of our elections, year after year. They are getting more daring and brazen with each cycle, aided and abetted by the news media and the profound ignorance of the American people.
7 posted on 10/01/2002 6:01:32 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: elfman2; twigs
That's wrong. It was 3 Republicans (or what passes for Republicans in NJ), 3 Dems and 1 independent.

McGreevey just filled a vacancy with a 4th Democrat.

8 posted on 10/01/2002 6:02:09 AM PDT by frmrda
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To: frmrda
According to what I heard on FoxNews this a.m. --- the NJ Supreme Court is now 4 dems, 2 reps and 1 independent.

The latest dem was added just a few weeks ago and is a close, personal friend of the NJ governor...

UGH !!!

9 posted on 10/01/2002 6:09:27 AM PDT by coder2
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To: elfman2
I read somewhere last night that the NJSC is now 4-3 in favor of Dems. In an ideal world that wouldn't matter, only the law would matter, but in the real world politics often trumps law as we saw happen in FL.

NJ isn't going to let FL win the race to the bottom of the sleaze pit. After all, it has a reputation to protect you know.

10 posted on 10/01/2002 6:11:47 AM PDT by epow
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To: frmrda
It doesn't matter what the partisan make up is, it's one of the most liberal state supreme courts in the nation.
11 posted on 10/01/2002 6:12:36 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative
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To: elfman2
The NJ Supreme is not, but this is an election for a NATIONAL OFFICE. Any election law of NJ must be in compliance with US election law.....therefore, the US Supreme's can weigh in on this if they so desire; if NJ gets out of line.

That was proven in Florida during the algore, soreloserman debacle.
12 posted on 10/01/2002 6:17:49 AM PDT by xzins
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To: twigs
Lisa Myers on PMSNBC this morning said the NJ Supremes have more Dim appointees. Torch and McGreevy seem pretty smug that they can break the NJ election law and re-write the ballots with Menendez (or some other NJ Dim replacement). My guess is they have these judges in the back pocket, otherwise they would not be trying this tactic.
13 posted on 10/01/2002 6:31:21 AM PDT by HoosierFather
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To: xzins
There is no way the US supremes are going to comment
on this case. If they did, they'd deserve all the abuse
that was heaped on them after Florida, but they're too
smart for that. If they did, btw, they'd hand the
election to the democrats, and not just the NJ election.
14 posted on 10/01/2002 6:33:05 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: HoosierFather
I didn't know that. Thanks for the update. I agree with you that they wouldn't have tried this if they didn't have a reasonable belief that they could succeed. I listened to a NJ reporter on O'Reilly last night who had investigated Torch. He said that Torch was the quintessential deal maker and that was the reason he wasn't prosecuted before. Let's hope this ends up before the US Supreme Court and they have the courage to subject themselves to leftist claims that they are manipulating elections if they decide to uphold the law as written.
15 posted on 10/01/2002 6:36:24 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Linda Liberty
There is no way the US supremes are going to comment on this case.

I absolutely disagree. They are charged with overseeing the constitution and the provisions thereof. One provision regards national level elections, and they will not allow shenanigans with national-level elections.

Since the majority is Republican, then they would FIX shenanigans from a republican world-view.

They would deserve abuse if they let timidity prevent them from correcting a clear abuse of a national level election.

16 posted on 10/01/2002 6:40:50 AM PDT by xzins
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To: twigs
Fox News reported this morning that as of 3 weeks ago there is one more Democrat on the NJ State Supreme Court than there are Republicans (5-4 I believe).

Regardless of how clear the law is, it wouldn't shock me if the Scum machine cranked into full gear and--VOILA--The NJ Supreme Court ruled to allow the Scums to CHEAT AT THE POLLS ONCE AGAIN. Par for the course for those morally bankrupt @ssh*les........

17 posted on 10/01/2002 6:41:59 AM PDT by RooRoobird14
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To: xzins; elfman2; epow
What about the absentee ballots?

There are people who have voted already based of the post 51 day ballot. How will those people get to "recast" their ballots? It is not just Nov 5, voting HAS BEEN occuring. Voter disenfranchisement is happening again. What about the NJ millitary votes, are the Dems going to object to military voting AGAIN?
18 posted on 10/01/2002 6:42:24 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: mwl1
Yep. I read that even Tom Russert said the Dems are in charge of all elections in NJ- Attn. Gen, Gov., and SCONJ.
19 posted on 10/01/2002 6:43:41 AM PDT by rintense
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To: RooRoobird14
Well, didn't Torch say he filed with the SCOTUS to have his name removed? If this is the case, that makes the SCONJ irrelevant. This will ultimately end up on with the SCOTUS anyway.
20 posted on 10/01/2002 6:46:32 AM PDT by rintense
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