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California: Governor vetoes undocumented driver's license bill [AB60]
Sarasota Herald-Tribune ^ | Tuesday, October 1, 2002 | DON THOMPSON

Posted on 09/30/2002 10:00:19 PM PDT by heleny

Governor vetoes undocumented driver's license bill


By DON THOMPSON
Associated Press Writer


Gov. Gray Davis vetoed legislation letting some illegal immigrants obtain California driver's licenses Monday, as he completed action on some of the most controversial bills sent to his desk this fall.

The governor's politically charged decision forced him to weigh what he said were increased security risks from licensing non-citizens after last year's terrorist attacks against the urging of immigrant rights groups that said it would make California's highways safer.

Davis demanded a series of safeguards, including fingerprint background checks and cooperation with the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service.

That angered Hispanic groups vital to his re-election campaign. Earlier in the day, however, Davis signed legislation supported by Hispanic groups giving increased bargaining power to farmworkers.

Legislators reluctantly amended the driver's license bill to comply with the governor's concerns as they rushed to adjourn a month ago.

But Davis enumerated five specific loopholes in addition to a handful of other areas where he said the language still fell short of what he had requested. Without those safeguards, Davis said the bill was too dangerous.

"The tragedy of Sept. 11 made it abundantly clear that the driver's license is more than just a license to drive; it is one of the primary documents we use to identify ourselves," Davis said in his veto message. "Unfortunately, a driver's license was in the hands of terrorists who attacked America on that fateful day."

The bill's author, Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, had said the revised legislation should have been enough to not only satisfy Davis, but was actually improved by lawmakers.

California highways would be safer by having all drivers trained and insured, said proponents. But in addition to Davis' security concerns, opponents complained licenses encouraged illegal immigration and gave a state privilege to lawbreakers.

Davis had until midnight Monday to act on the legislation, which took on huge symbolic importance for immigrants, particularly groups representing California's large Mexican population.

Cedillo initially estimated as many as 1 million of the state's roughly 3 million undocumented immigrants would be eligible, though his staff subsequently acknowledged the actual number could be far lower.

Just 130,000 people applied to adjust their status to permanent residents or extend temporary visitor visas in all of California, Hawaii, Nevada and Arizona over the last year, according to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.



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Another AP article -- similar but shorter:
Calif. Gov. Vetoes License Bill

Tuesday October 1, 2002 5:00 AM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Gov. Gray Davis vetoed legislation Monday letting many illegal immigrants obtain California driver's licenses.

The decision forced Davis to weigh what he said were increased security risks from licensing non-citizens after last year's terrorist attacks against the urging of immigrant rights groups.

Davis had demanded a series of safeguards, including fingerprint background checks and cooperation with the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service, angering Hispanic groups vital to his re-election campaign.

Legislators reluctantly amended legislation to comply with the governor's concerns as they rushed to adjourn a month ago, but aides to the governor said the language still fell short of what he had requested.

The bill's author, Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, countered that the revised legislation should be enough to not only satisfy Davis, but was improved by lawmakers.

California highways would be safer by having all drivers trained and insured, proponents said. But besides Davis' security concerns, opponents complained licenses encourage illegal immigration.

Davis had until midnight Monday to act on the legislation. The bill took on huge symbolic importance for immigrants, particularly groups representing California's large Mexican population.

Cedillo initially estimated as many as a million of the state's roughly 3 million undocumented immigrants would be eligible, though his staff subsequently acknowledged the actual number could be far lower.

Just 130,000 people applied to adjust their status to permanent resident or extend temporary visitor visas in all of California, Hawaii, Nevada and Arizona over the last year, according to the Immigration and Naturalization Service.


Thank goodness! Davis knew signing AB60 would be too hot politically!
1 posted on 09/30/2002 10:00:20 PM PDT by heleny
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an earlier thread:

Illegal alien driver's licenses in California

American Patrol | 9/30/02 | Tancredo Fan
Posted on 09/30/2002 9:54 PM Pacific by Tancredo Fan

The word is that California Governor Gray Davis has vetoed California AB60, the bill that would have allowed illegal alien invaders to get driver's licenses. Will wonders never cease.

2 posted on 09/30/2002 10:22:57 PM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny; Victoria Delsoul; Marine Inspector; FITZ; Ajnin; Pelham; Travis McGee; sarcasm; harpseal; ..
Thank goodness for the courageous leadership of the Republican National Committee in opposing this legislation.



3 posted on 09/30/2002 10:26:18 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
This is as strong a sign of Bray Davis' desperation as I have seen.
4 posted on 09/30/2002 10:28:39 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Sabertooth
LOL!

The only thing this proves is that Davis' price was too high for the transportation industry. Someone said Simon supports the bill...wonder what happened there? Republicans sold into their camp?

Lanscaping...drywall...construction industries...next target - truckers. Pretty soon we'll be a banana republic without a middle class.

5 posted on 09/30/2002 10:39:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: heleny; All

California - FY 2001 INS Apprehensions by Country
Armenia 34 Australia 4 Austria 3 Azerbaijan 1
Bahamas 2 Bangladesh 2 Barbados 2 Belgium 2
Belize 45 Bermuda 1 Bolivia 13 Brazil 368
Bulgaria 24 Burma 1 Byelarus 2 Cameroon 1
Canada 359 Chile 27 China 144 Colombia 51
Costa Rica 15 Cuba 103 Czech Republic 2 Czechoslovakia 4
Dominican Republic 6 Ecuador 92 Egypt 8 El Salvador 1,238
Ethiopia 14 Fiji 76 France 5 Gabon 1
Georgia 3 Germany 19 Ghana 3 Greece 3
Guatemala 886 Guinea 2 Guyana 1 Haiti 5
Homduras 575 Hong Kong 3 Hungary 2 India 85
Indonesia 10 Iran 41 Iraq 8 Ireland 4
Israel 14 Italy 9 Ivory Coast 2 Jamaica 48
Japan 11 Jordan 11 Kampuchea 69 Kazakhstan 3
Kenya 3 Kuwait 1 Laos 90 Latvia 1
Lebanon 26 Libya 1 Macau 1 Malaysia 12
Mexico 315,386 Moldova 4 Mongolia 1 Netherlands 4
New Zealand 3 Nicaragua 104 Nigeria 17 North Korea 2
Oman 3 Pakistan 17 Palestine 1 Panama 9
Papya New Guinea 2 Paraguay 5 Peru 61 Philippines 307
Poland 19 Portugal 13 Romania 10 Russia 32
Saudi Arabia  2 Senegal 1 Sierra Leone 3 Singapore 1
Slovakia 6 Somalia 1 South Africa 4 South Korea 82
Spain 3 Sri Lanka 1 St. Kitts-Nevis 1 St. Vincent - Grenadines 8
Sudan 4 Sweden 2 Syria 26 Taiwan 10
Thailand 32 Tonga 19 Trinidad and Tobago 29 Tunisia 1
Turkey 15 Uganda 3 Ukraine 37 United Kingdom 49
Uruguay 1 Uzbekistan 4 Venezuela 13 Vietnam 213
Western Samoa  4 Yemen 4 Yugoslavia 6 Zimbabwe 3

Total = 321,198
Marine Inspector
6 posted on 09/30/2002 10:50:05 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
California - FY 2001 INS Apprehensions by Country

Mexico = 315,386

St. Kitts-Nevis = 1

I demand that all illegal aliens from St. Kitts-Nevis who are presently roaming freely throughout California be immediately rounded up and deported!

7 posted on 09/30/2002 11:00:18 PM PDT by usadave
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To: Sabertooth
Thank goodness for the courageous leadership of the Republican National Committee in opposing this legislation.

Yes, they are a courageous bunch aren't they? LOL. Whatever happened to the Reagan Legacy of taking on and Beating liberals on their own Home Turf? The game of Eternal Defense will never work for Republicans, especially when the Democrats are taking all their Real Estate.

8 posted on 09/30/2002 11:05:06 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: usadave; PsyOp
I demand that all illegal aliens from St. Kitts-Nevis who are presently roaming freely throughout California be immediately rounded up and deported!

SIR, YES SIR

Hey PsyOp, if you run into any illegals from St. Kitts-Nevis, give me a cal, I'll come get them.

LOL

9 posted on 09/30/2002 11:07:27 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: usadave
Get this, in Connecticut, the INS arrested more Jamaicans (156) then Mexicans (130). Why the hell are Jamaicans hanging out in Connecticut?
10 posted on 09/30/2002 11:15:04 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth; *calgov2002; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; Gophack; eureka!; ElkGroveDan; ...
calgov2002:

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11 posted on 09/30/2002 11:28:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine Inspector
Wow, apprehending 321 thousand is only a tenth of the 3 million illegal aliens estimated to live in CA by Cedillo in the article, or only 5% of other estimates of 6-7 million illegal aliens in CA.

Are those apprehended aliens the ones actually deported, or does it include those who "disappear" before the deportation hearings?

12 posted on 09/30/2002 11:31:18 PM PDT by heleny
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13 posted on 09/30/2002 11:31:43 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: heleny
I don't know the actual breakdown, but approximately 90 to 95 % of the apprehensions are from the Border Patrol and are returned to there country of citizenship.

The other 5 to 10 % are apprehended by Criminal Investigators, Immigration Agents, Deportation Officers or Detention Officers and I would say the majority are removed from the US.

I'm sure some are released due to lack of detention space and disappear and some are released by judges.

14 posted on 09/30/2002 11:47:33 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
This is an average of over 7,750 illegal aliens entering the United States undetected daily.

Here are some numbers to help put this into perspective:

US and Allied troops that invaded Normandy in 1944 = 250,000+

US troops that invaded Okinawa in 1945 = 550,000+

Illegal aliens that have invaded the United States since October 1st 2001 = 2.3 million +


From your home page - which appears to be under construction, but already paints a spooky picture. Great work!

15 posted on 10/01/2002 12:35:15 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: meadsjn
Thank you.

It will be a work in progress for the next month or so. I will be adding to it each day. Once I've got FY 2001, I'll go to work on FY 2000.

Most people don't realize the magnitude of the numbers of illegals coming across the border. But, once they see them side to side with another historical event, it gives the situation a whole new meaning.

Thanks again and keep checking back.

16 posted on 10/01/2002 1:30:57 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
I've got it bookmarked.

Your counter doesn't appear to be incrementing. You might want to know how many hits it's getting.

17 posted on 10/01/2002 1:39:37 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: heleny
The governor's politically charged decision forced him to weigh what he said were increased security risks from licensing non-citizens after last year's terrorist attacks against the urging of immigrant rights groups that said it would make California's highways safer.

Correction, this little bastard and his lies....This should have read:

The governor's politically charged decision forced him to weigh what he said were increased security risks from licensing non-citizens after last year's terrorist attacks and at the urging of politically uncorrect, anti illegal alien groups, that are not afraid to speak out and tell these traitors in Sacramento exactly how they feel.

18 posted on 10/01/2002 9:01:54 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Marine Inspector
"St. Kitts-Nevis"

Couple of questions:

1) Where the heck is St. Kitts-Nevis?

2) What the heck doea a St. Kitts-Nevisite look like.
19 posted on 10/01/2002 9:02:47 AM PDT by PsyOp
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To: meadsjn
Your counter doesn't appear to be incrementing. You might want to know how many hits it's getting.

I noticed that the other day, but have yet to figure out what’s wrong.

20 posted on 10/01/2002 9:22:36 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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