Posted on 09/26/2002 6:36:59 PM PDT by knighthawk
CHARLOTTE, N.C(AP) - America is gradually being "Islamized" even while Islamic countries squelch religious freedom within their borders, evangelist Franklin Graham said in his latest comments on Islam.
Graham spoke in an interview published Thursday by the Asheville Citizen-Times.
"Our country is slowly being, very quietly, being Islamized by huge contributions from Saudi Arabia to our universities to pay for Islamic studies, to support Islamic causes in this country," Graham told the paper's editors. "I don't have a problem with that, but I can't go to Saudi Arabia and take even a Bible. I can't go to Saudi Arabia with a Bible. They will confiscate it."
A Temple University professor of Islamic studies and comparative religion expressed concern about the thrust of the comments.
"It's really the tone of Mr. Graham's remarks and his general kind of sweeping statements that are most disturbing," Professor Mahmoud Ayoub said Thursday.
Saudi money donated to American universities usually comes from individuals who have studied in the United States and is not directed at spreading Islam, said Ayoub, a native of Lebanon whose position at Temple is not endowed.
"In fact, I have argued to donors like the Saudis and others that they should have a little more say in how their money is spent," Ayoub said. "They don't have any say."
Graham, 50, is the son of America's most famous evangelist, Billy Graham, and is his father's named successor.
Since the Sept. 11 attacks, Franklin Graham has made repeated comments on Islam, calling it "a very evil and wicked religion."
Last month, in a radio interview, he questioned why Islamic clerics have not apologized to the American people for the Sept. 11 attacks.
In Tuesday's interview with the Citizen-Times, Graham spoke at length about Islam, apparently angered by a recent bombing near a hospital in southern Sudan run by his Boone-based Samaritan's Purse relief organization.
Sudan's Islamic government is engaged in a long-running war on the country's southern population, which is primarily Christian.
Graham said the bombing occurred just before a Sudanese diplomat invited him to participate in peace talks there. Graham said he asked the diplomat to deliver a message to the Sudanese president to stop attacking civilians.
"So after I finished the conversation, on my way home from Arkansas, two fighter planes bombed a little Dinka village and killed 14 people," Graham said.
"They will lie to you at the same time talking peace: 'We want you to be part of the peace process,' Well, thanks a lot for dropping a bomb on my hospital."
Graham traced the roots of the Sept. 11 attacks to the 1979 revolution that brought the Ayatollah Khomeni to power in Iran.
"We in the west have never experienced this kind of behavior, have never seen this before, where religion is driving people to mass murder, where religion is killing innocent people," Graham said. "(This) Islamic revolution that has taken place, starting in Iran, is rising and getting stronger."
Ayoub said that, in reality, there is a deep divide between Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida group and the Iranian revolutionaries.
"Iran is a Shiite country and both the Saudis and al-Qaida (are Sunnis), they see the Iranians as infidels," he said.
Ayoub added, "I do not think that Christianity is free from religious violence. ... I'm not saying Muslims are saints, but nor are Christians."
Please see post #11 for what this country will face in just a few short years. When my child is my age, this is what she and her generation will have to deal with here.
Excellent observation which bears repeating! And it comes like its father to steal, to kill and to destroy.
Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
It's not fear-mongering. One shouldn't discount the truth just because the messenger is unacceptable.
Take a look at this link al taqiyya which has a lot of information about why we should not believe what moslems in general say to us about jihad.
But don't ignore the truth because you don't like Graham.
It isn't the percentage at the moment that is being referred to, it's the fact that very high rates of immigration multiplied by extremely prolific birth rates = very big changes in a very few decades. The actual rate of "conversion" to Islam in the US remains quite small, but with these other 2 factors in play, Islamic politics will undoubtedly play a big role in US life in the fairly near future.
I live and work in the Chicago suburbs, and believe me, some of these large apartment complexes already have Islamic majorities, (making for less and less assimilation)and in some towns, more people are going to mosque than to church.
What I think is very sad, is that there are not many churches making serious efforts to evangelize the muslims here in the US. This population is young, curious, looking for a way to blend "conservative" values with liberty and not captive to political tyranny. What an opportunity. And we are missing it.
Maybe he was speaking in a larger context, but a narrower scope. The fact of the matter is that Hollywood, TV, popular culture and the news media have all been highly secularizing, coarsening and morally corrosive influences in our society, and these "institutions" have an extraordinarily high level of participation by Jews, albeit, NON-religious Jews. Maybe he was somehow refering to these folks as "Jews" since Jews have been so commonplace among them.
It reminds me of the conundrum of the New Testament, in which "the Jews" is a group aften cast in a negative light, whereas "the people" are spoken of much more positively---yet "the people" are the JEWISH people!
And we must never forget that.
Any questions?
There's no such thing as a true, regenerate Christian that isn't a saint. And it should be, "neither are," not "nor are."
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